Comments on: “It’s for people who, like me, who wouldn’t think of going to synagogue but still want to talk about stuff.” http://www.jewlicious.com/2004/07/its-for-people-who-like-me-who-wouldnt-think-of-going-to-synagogue-but-still-want-to-talk-about-stuff/ 100% Kosher Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:52:45 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: astoroFer http://www.jewlicious.com/2004/07/its-for-people-who-like-me-who-wouldnt-think-of-going-to-synagogue-but-still-want-to-talk-about-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-1076571 astoroFer Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:41:33 +0000 /?p=44#comment-1076571 There was this guy see. He wasn't very bright and he reached his adult life without ever having learned "the facts". Somehow, it gets to be his wedding day. While he is walking down the isle, his father tugs his sleeve and says, "Son, when you get to the hotel room...Call me" Hours later he gets to the hotel room with his beautiful blushing bride and he calls his father, "Dad, we are the hotel, what do I do?" "O.K. Son, listen up, take off your clothes and get in the bed, then she should take off her clothes and get in the bed, if not help her. Then either way, ah, call me" A few moments later... "Dad we took off our clothes and we are in the bed, what do I do?" O.K. Son, listen up. Move real close to her and she should move real close to you, and then... Ah, call me." A few moments later... "DAD! WE TOOK OFF OUR CLOTHES, GOT IN THE BED AND MOVED REAL CLOSE, WHAT DO I DO???" "O.K. Son, Listen up, this is the most important part. Stick the long part of your body into the place where she goes to the bathroom." A few moments later... "Dad, I've got my foot in the toilet, what do I do?" There was this guy see.
He wasn’t very bright and he reached his adult life without ever having learned “the facts”.
Somehow, it gets to be his wedding day.
While he is walking down the isle, his father tugs his sleeve and says,

“Son, when you get to the hotel room…Call me”

Hours later he gets to the hotel room with his beautiful blushing bride and he calls his father,

“Dad, we are the hotel, what do I do?”

“O.K. Son, listen up, take off your clothes and get in the bed, then she should take off her clothes and get in the bed, if not help her. Then either way, ah, call me”

A few moments later…

“Dad we took off our clothes and we are in the bed, what do I do?”

O.K. Son, listen up. Move real close to her and she should move real close to you, and then… Ah, call me.”

A few moments later…

“DAD! WE TOOK OFF OUR CLOTHES, GOT IN THE BED AND MOVED REAL CLOSE, WHAT DO I DO???”

“O.K. Son, Listen up, this is the most important part. Stick the long part of your body into the place where she goes to the bathroom.”

A few moments later…

“Dad, I’ve got my foot in the toilet, what do I do?”

]]> By: vopyteext http://www.jewlicious.com/2004/07/its-for-people-who-like-me-who-wouldnt-think-of-going-to-synagogue-but-still-want-to-talk-about-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-1076002 vopyteext Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:08:09 +0000 /?p=44#comment-1076002 There was this guy see. He wasn't very bright and he reached his adult life without ever having learned "the facts". Somehow, it gets to be his wedding day. While he is walking down the isle, his father tugs his sleeve and says, "Son, when you get to the hotel room...Call me" Hours later he gets to the hotel room with his beautiful blushing bride and he calls his father, "Dad, we are the hotel, what do I do?" "O.K. Son, listen up, take off your clothes and get in the bed, then she should take off her clothes and get in the bed, if not help her. Then either way, ah, call me" A few moments later... "Dad we took off our clothes and we are in the bed, what do I do?" O.K. Son, listen up. Move real close to her and she should move real close to you, and then... Ah, call me." A few moments later... "DAD! WE TOOK OFF OUR CLOTHES, GOT IN THE BED AND MOVED REAL CLOSE, WHAT DO I DO???" "O.K. Son, Listen up, this is the most important part. Stick the long part of your body into the place where she goes to the bathroom." A few moments later... "Dad, I've got my foot in the toilet, what do I do?" There was this guy see.
He wasn’t very bright and he reached his adult life without ever having learned “the facts”.
Somehow, it gets to be his wedding day.
While he is walking down the isle, his father tugs his sleeve and says,

“Son, when you get to the hotel room…Call me”

Hours later he gets to the hotel room with his beautiful blushing bride and he calls his father,

“Dad, we are the hotel, what do I do?”

“O.K. Son, listen up, take off your clothes and get in the bed, then she should take off her clothes and get in the bed, if not help her. Then either way, ah, call me”

A few moments later…

“Dad we took off our clothes and we are in the bed, what do I do?”

O.K. Son, listen up. Move real close to her and she should move real close to you, and then… Ah, call me.”

A few moments later…

“DAD! WE TOOK OFF OUR CLOTHES, GOT IN THE BED AND MOVED REAL CLOSE, WHAT DO I DO???”

“O.K. Son, Listen up, this is the most important part. Stick the long part of your body into the place where she goes to the bathroom.”

A few moments later…

“Dad, I’ve got my foot in the toilet, what do I do?”

]]> By: alex mazelow http://www.jewlicious.com/2004/07/its-for-people-who-like-me-who-wouldnt-think-of-going-to-synagogue-but-still-want-to-talk-about-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-844379 alex mazelow Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:27:15 +0000 /?p=44#comment-844379 Alex Mazelow of Toronto muses about coming from a “totally secular family with absolutely no connection to Israel…. I figured I had nothing to lose…worst-case scenario, I would have a free 10-day trip with my friends. I was wrong.” Describing the unexpected feeling of “belonging” Mazelow writes: “When I got back to Montreal I immediately contacted McGill Hillel… worked for Hillel, volunteered at Federation in Montreal to plan the Montreal Yom Ha’atzmaut Rally, which I was unable to see because I was back in Israel on the March of the Living.” Natalie Schweid of Dusseldorf, Germany, felt in a bind: “… living in Alex Mazelow of Toronto muses about coming from a “totally secular family with absolutely no connection to Israel…. I figured I had nothing to lose…worst-case scenario, I would have a free 10-day trip with my friends. I was wrong.” Describing the unexpected feeling of “belonging” Mazelow writes: “When I got back to Montreal I immediately contacted McGill Hillel… worked for Hillel, volunteered at Federation in Montreal to plan the Montreal Yom Ha’atzmaut Rally, which I was unable to see because I was back in Israel on the March of the Living.” Natalie Schweid of Dusseldorf, Germany, felt in a bind: “… living in

]]> By: Jew School » Blog Archive http://www.jewlicious.com/2004/07/its-for-people-who-like-me-who-wouldnt-think-of-going-to-synagogue-but-still-want-to-talk-about-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-563809 Jew School » Blog Archive Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:14:44 +0000 /?p=44#comment-563809 [...] enthusiast, only began blogging after my repeated insistence that he did so). Likewise, since Jewlicious began, I have been the repeated subject of posts there, both flattering and unflattering. Suffice to say, [...] [...] enthusiast, only began blogging after my repeated insistence that he did so). Likewise, since Jewlicious began, I have been the repeated subject of posts there, both flattering and unflattering. Suffice to say, [...]

]]> By: Jewlicious » 1000 Jewlicious Posts http://www.jewlicious.com/2004/07/its-for-people-who-like-me-who-wouldnt-think-of-going-to-synagogue-but-still-want-to-talk-about-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-126723 Jewlicious » 1000 Jewlicious Posts Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:28:31 +0000 /?p=44#comment-126723 [...] ve been threatened with law suits (once by the overly litigous JDate) and we never did get invited to Utah to hang with Mr. Bronfman or Mr. Steinhardt or any of the other new Jew swells. So what indeed. [...] [...] ve been threatened with law suits (once by the overly litigous JDate) and we never did get invited to Utah to hang with Mr. Bronfman or Mr. Steinhardt or any of the other new Jew swells. So what indeed. [...]

]]> By: ck http://www.jewlicious.com/2004/07/its-for-people-who-like-me-who-wouldnt-think-of-going-to-synagogue-but-still-want-to-talk-about-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-1860 ck Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:44:33 +0000 /?p=44#comment-1860 Bialik is the polar opposite of Beis Rivkah - mixed classes, secular orientation founded by like labour Zionists or something. I thought she went to St. Georges though.... same thing as Bialik but without the annoying Jewish stuff... Bialik is the polar opposite of Beis Rivkah – mixed classes, secular orientation founded by like labour Zionists or something. I thought she went to St. Georges though…. same thing as Bialik but without the annoying Jewish stuff…

]]> By: ak http://www.jewlicious.com/2004/07/its-for-people-who-like-me-who-wouldnt-think-of-going-to-synagogue-but-still-want-to-talk-about-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-1858 ak Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:17:46 +0000 /?p=44#comment-1858 Hey, Mireille went to Bialik. Ok, it's no Beis Rivka, but come on. Hey, Mireille went to Bialik. Ok, it’s no Beis Rivka, but come on.

]]> By: ck http://www.jewlicious.com/2004/07/its-for-people-who-like-me-who-wouldnt-think-of-going-to-synagogue-but-still-want-to-talk-about-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-22 ck Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:11:44 +0000 /?p=44#comment-22 I am humbled. This blog hardly deserves to be graced by such a distinguished poster and we're totally not in the same league as the accomplished "cool" and "Jewish" entities you mention. Funny thing is I actually am a homey - my entire family is from Africa (North, not south), I grew up in a really rough neighbourhood and I count drug dealers, gun runners, pimps and (gasp!) NYC lawyers and stock brokers as some of my closest friends, acquaintances and associates. I actually am ghetto! But I'll never be Mr. gangsta, playa, hip hop yid - a mosaic wigger from a well monied suburb who talks the talk but crosses the street whenever a bro' comes by. And it's not because I have anything against hip hop culture - it's because I'm white. Rap is at its best when it reflects righteous indignation. I have nothing to be indignant about. Plus I can't dance worth shit. But having said all that, I agree with many things you say, and other things I am in total disagreement with. And I mean total. Still, thanks for popping by. You and the wife don't be strangers now! I am humbled. This blog hardly deserves to be graced by such a distinguished poster and we’re totally not in the same league as the accomplished “cool” and “Jewish” entities you mention. Funny thing is I actually am a homey – my entire family is from Africa (North, not south), I grew up in a really rough neighbourhood and I count drug dealers, gun runners, pimps and (gasp!) NYC lawyers and stock brokers as some of my closest friends, acquaintances and associates. I actually am ghetto! But I’ll never be Mr. gangsta, playa, hip hop yid – a mosaic wigger from a well monied suburb who talks the talk but crosses the street whenever a bro’ comes by. And it’s not because I have anything against hip hop culture – it’s because I’m white. Rap is at its best when it reflects righteous indignation. I have nothing to be indignant about. Plus I can’t dance worth shit.

But having said all that, I agree with many things you say, and other things I am in total disagreement with. And I mean total. Still, thanks for popping by. You and the wife don’t be strangers now!

]]> By: rushkoff http://www.jewlicious.com/2004/07/its-for-people-who-like-me-who-wouldnt-think-of-going-to-synagogue-but-still-want-to-talk-about-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-10 rushkoff Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:30:09 +0000 /?p=44#comment-10 No, you don't suck. You're right on the money as far as I'm concerned. The marketing of Judaism as a set of cultural offerings is a last-ditch marketing attempt by Jewish philanthropies to garner teen support for Israeli security policy and, secondarily, for racial Judaism. It's not my questioning of God the character that upsets powers-that-be as much as my questioning of the counting of affiliated blood-Jews in America, and my questioning of the nation-state Israel as the central icon in Jewish existence. It's also, believe it or not, my insistence - like yours - on Jewish learning. I'm a beit midrash guy, and tend to feel (perhaps this is elitism and wrong) that Judaism starts with the text. One simply has to know that they're talking about, and the way to do that is to engage with the texts, ideally with others. Cool Jews don't want to have to learn, read, or work. They want to provoke people, but that's pretty much all. 'Cool Judaism' says much more about the individuals doing it (and the people funding it) than it says about Judaism. It's usually either a reaction against one's own earlier shame at being Jewish, or an easy to way to get money for otherwise mediocre art ideas. The few people who are doing stuff that is Jewish *and* cool (say, Amichai, or the Hassidic Reggae guy, or Plotz, or Jewish Women Watching, or you, or Dan) end up getting lumped in with the "Jews are niggahs, too" slushpile - even though their intention is completely different. No, you don’t suck. You’re right on the money as far as I’m concerned.

The marketing of Judaism as a set of cultural offerings is a last-ditch marketing attempt by Jewish philanthropies to garner teen support for Israeli security policy and, secondarily, for racial Judaism. It’s not my questioning of God the character that upsets powers-that-be as much as my questioning of the counting of affiliated blood-Jews in America, and my questioning of the nation-state Israel as the central icon in Jewish existence.

It’s also, believe it or not, my insistence – like yours – on Jewish learning. I’m a beit midrash guy, and tend to feel (perhaps this is elitism and wrong) that Judaism starts with the text. One simply has to know that they’re talking about, and the way to do that is to engage with the texts, ideally with others. Cool Jews don’t want to have to learn, read, or work. They want to provoke people, but that’s pretty much all.

‘Cool Judaism’ says much more about the individuals doing it (and the people funding it) than it says about Judaism. It’s usually either a reaction against one’s own earlier shame at being Jewish, or an easy to way to get money for otherwise mediocre art ideas.

The few people who are doing stuff that is Jewish *and* cool (say, Amichai, or the Hassidic Reggae guy, or Plotz, or Jewish Women Watching, or you, or Dan) end up getting lumped in with the “Jews are niggahs, too” slushpile – even though their intention is completely different.

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