Comments on: Oh g*D, no! Small number of pullout supporters appear for rally; Right exuberant!

By: T_M

T_M — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:16:12 +0000

Uh, no. How did we get from referendum to war criminal? And why did you answer my question with a question?

By: josh

josh — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:14:18 +0000

T_M,
am I a war criminal?

By: T_M

T_M — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:02:09 +0000

You’re welcome.

By: Ben-David

Ben-David — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:42:18 +0000

T M wrote:
Ben David, I give you the post you wanted and I don’t even get a thank you?
………………………………

Thank you! (You’re still wrong, but) Thank You!
Ben-David

By: Alter Kocker

Alter Kocker — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:02:11 +0000

Lets have a referendum on keeping arabs in gaza.

By: T_M

T_M — Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:45:11 +0000

Josh, was there a referendum regarding the establishment of settlements?

By: ck

ck — Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:35:10 +0000

I’m not against referendums. But given that no viable alternative has been proposed for what to do with Gaza other than maintenance of the status quo, I don’t see why a referendum is neccessary. The only thing it has going for it is that apparently, if the anti-disengagement folks lose, they’ll walk away quietly and submit to the will of the people. But even that is questionable. So what do we do? I dunno.

By: josh

josh — Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:18:12 +0000

I don’t think referenda should be the way to run a country.

Every ‘country’ has referendum for unique and critical issue:

-All european countries before deciding to join the EU,
-afterwards the UK held one on whether to use the Euro or keep the sterling
-Rabin and Barak promised to call a referendum on any major land-for-peace aggreements
-Quebec (nuff said)

and frankly, I believe that most if not all United States have quasi referendum attached to ballots every election on various state proposals like single-gender marriages, drugs, abortion, etc…

ck, what’s wrong with referendum on major issues that might transcend partisian loyalties?

By: harry

harry — Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:27:18 +0000

The rally means NOTHING. I know of many, many, many people who support disengagement but didn’t go to the rally. Myself being one of them. In fact, no one I know went. Standing side by side with Gush Shalom isn’t how I like spending my Saturday nights. And the rally was supported by the left, it wasn’t an all encompassing rally bringing together those on the left and the right who support disengagement.

By: T_M

T_M — Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:10:42 +0000

Josh, I don’t think referenda should be the way to run a country.

I brought up the poll to show that while people didn’t show up to the rally, only 3 weeks earlier, we had 65% of Israelis supporting the pullout.

Velvel, they held a rally because they hoped to show strong public support. What the rally shows is that Yahad (Meretz) and Peace Now remain on the fringes. Big surprise.

Cosmic, you say that many Likud members are worried about their seats and therefore going against the will of their people. I would take the opposite tack and say that those “rebels” are kissing up to their constituents despite the importance of this matter. Netanyahu is a perfect example. He is taking the position against the pullout because he is gambling that no matter what, the Palestinians will continue with the violence. If they do, he can point to his vote against the pullout and say he was right. If he’s wrong and leaving Gaza somehow magically solves problems, he still benefits from having the “courage” to stick to his convictions. Win/win.

Ben David, I give you the post you wanted and I don’t even get a thank you?