Comments on: Former Chief Rabbi of Ireland Writes about the Deceased Pope

By: Esther Sackheim

Esther Sackheim — Fri, 08 Apr 2005 01:07:07 +0000

In our local papers, there was a woman who was a Holocaust survivor who said the pope found her starving and weak and carried her to safety and found food for her. What more can anyone ask of a human being? This woman lives in Skokie, Ill or one of the surrounding suburbs.
Sholom
Esther Feinstein sackheim
ZeraKodesh@aol.com

By: T_M

T_M — Tue, 05 Apr 2005 08:23:45 +0000

I dunno Josh, it seems to me that you’re looking for some way to disparage what is a fairly straightforward document. That document not only recognizes Israel, but makes it a point to stress the relationship with the Jewish people. I’m not sure what more you expect but this is enough for me.

Nobody is saying this Pope didn’t have diverging interests from those of the Jewish people, of course he did. The point is that he made a strong and successful effort during his lifetime and papacy to bring about a new relationship between Catholics and Jews. I really don’t know what more you want, it takes time and effort to change hearts and minds.

By: ck

ck — Tue, 05 Apr 2005 07:11:49 +0000

Good link TM. I guess I don’t know the exact status, maybe somewhere between full recognition and grudging tolerance. But it’s all good – he was a pretty good pope as far as all that goes.

By: josh

josh — Tue, 05 Apr 2005 06:47:58 +0000

TM, or CK,
I don’t think the FUNDAMENTAL AGREEMENT recognizes Jewish sovreignty at all. It nicely pats us on the head for keeping the ‘status quo’.

By: D

Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:33:41 +0000

Thinking a man would be celibate for his entire life is delusional.

Priest or not, everyone has to do it sometime, and for the long life ol’ Popey had, I’d say hes had between the sheets action at least ONCE in his life! (Whether he paid for it or not.)

By: T_M

T_M — Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:50:04 +0000

I think that writer made no valid points. This is a process, one that took courage, initiative, and sufficient personal clout and charisma to implement. As for recognizing the sovereignty of Israel, can you tell me, ck, what this means?

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:37:32 +0000

I am sorry for the pope. As a person, Karol Wojtyla left no descendants because he was celibate. I understand he had an older brother who died in childhood, and as far as I understand,
he had no other siblings. So with his death, his part of the Wojtyla family is gone. Very sad.

However, because I believe in monotheism and Judaism, I believe that when he died, his soul returned to G-d, and the fact of G-d’s Unity was revealed to him, a reality he denied during his lifetime.

By: Zevi

Zevi — Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:52:13 +0000

Popes scare me.

By: ck

ck — Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:08:29 +0000

“… wallowed in the manure of their own cowardice”

I mean the writer at JewishIndy made some valid points – The Vatican has yet to recognize Israeli sivereignty, and the Israeli government made some embarassing concessions to the Pope when he came to visit. But he did come for a visit and as they say, Rome wasn’t built in a day ….

By: josh

josh — Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:54:20 +0000

Before we get too drunk for the love pouring out to this popr – an alternative view that you won’t see in the media.

jewishindy.com...