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		<title>By: Jewlicious &#187; Emma Thompson Inaugurates virtual Anne Frank Tree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewlicious &#187; Emma Thompson Inaugurates virtual Anne Frank Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 14:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While my trip to the Anne Frank house was rather under whelming, nonetheless, I&#8217;ve gotta support the humanitarian heart of the Anne Frank Tree mission, basically for those who have been inspired by Anne Frank to in turn inspire others. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While my trip to the Anne Frank house was rather under whelming, nonetheless, I&#8217;ve gotta support the humanitarian heart of the Anne Frank Tree mission, basically for those who have been inspired by Anne Frank to in turn inspire others. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rivka</title>
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		<dc:creator>rivka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jobber (and anyone else)
if you visit amsterdam, make sure not to be in the back of the train on the way back to the airport, or if you are, to move up before you get to Schippol.  It&#039;s a short platform and some of the end cars doors don&#039;t open. . .and you&#039;ll find yourself going all the way to Leiden and back like my friends and I did.  Twas a close call.  Good thing the plane prefered to wait for us rather than take our bags off the plane, gotta love Israeli security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jobber (and anyone else)<br />
if you visit amsterdam, make sure not to be in the back of the train on the way back to the airport, or if you are, to move up before you get to Schippol.  It&#8217;s a short platform and some of the end cars doors don&#8217;t open. . .and you&#8217;ll find yourself going all the way to Leiden and back like my friends and I did.  Twas a close call.  Good thing the plane prefered to wait for us rather than take our bags off the plane, gotta love Israeli security.</p>
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		<title>By: encino yeled</title>
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		<dc:creator>encino yeled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 09:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laya, when I visited the Anne Frank house, I was more shocked by the size of the whole thing.

As the ladies have once said in my presence: &quot;Oh my God! It&#039;s huge!&quot;

From her diary, I was expecting a sweatshop like structure, with 20 ppl crammed into one or two rooms. I get there, and it&#039;s ilke the Biltmore Hotel, with private suites. Sure, they suffered under Nazi rule and cooked until nighttime, but they could still choose to eat among four different dining rooms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laya, when I visited the Anne Frank house, I was more shocked by the size of the whole thing.</p>
<p>As the ladies have once said in my presence: &#8220;Oh my God! It&#8217;s huge!&#8221;</p>
<p>From her diary, I was expecting a sweatshop like structure, with 20 ppl crammed into one or two rooms. I get there, and it&#8217;s ilke the Biltmore Hotel, with private suites. Sure, they suffered under Nazi rule and cooked until nighttime, but they could still choose to eat among four different dining rooms.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2005/09/jude-or-jewlicious/comment-page-1/#comment-145239</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Onetinybird, you think Jobber is special? So do we.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Onetinybird, you think Jobber is special? So do we.</p>
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		<title>By: onetinybird</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2005/09/jude-or-jewlicious/comment-page-1/#comment-145231</link>
		<dc:creator>onetinybird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I sat here and read every comment and reply trying to truly understand what is being said, for I am not Jewish, just one person who loves the Lord God and has a heart for His &quot;chosen people&quot;.  I can&#039;t even begin to comprehend the devastation and heart ache that has been going on with His people since the time of Abraham when the covenant was made.  What I do know is that God made that covenant, but no where did He say that being His people would be easy.  You  are all special and have a special bond with God that NO ONE can take away even if they try (holocaust).  Don&#039;t let anger, bitterness, or even not understanding what God is doing get in the way by trying to figure out what man-made Jewish identity is supposed to be.  The only identity needed is that God&#039;s chosen people and you are special.  I have my name written in the Book of Life because I accepted Jesus into my heart, but you all have so much more----what a blessing that is!!!  Please remember that our ways and our thoughts are NOT the Lord&#039;s ways or thoughts.  God bless to you all!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I sat here and read every comment and reply trying to truly understand what is being said, for I am not Jewish, just one person who loves the Lord God and has a heart for His &#8220;chosen people&#8221;.  I can&#8217;t even begin to comprehend the devastation and heart ache that has been going on with His people since the time of Abraham when the covenant was made.  What I do know is that God made that covenant, but no where did He say that being His people would be easy.  You  are all special and have a special bond with God that NO ONE can take away even if they try (holocaust).  Don&#8217;t let anger, bitterness, or even not understanding what God is doing get in the way by trying to figure out what man-made Jewish identity is supposed to be.  The only identity needed is that God&#8217;s chosen people and you are special.  I have my name written in the Book of Life because I accepted Jesus into my heart, but you all have so much more&#8212;-what a blessing that is!!!  Please remember that our ways and our thoughts are NOT the Lord&#8217;s ways or thoughts.  God bless to you all!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jobber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jobber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have either a belief and practice in G-d and by extension the dictates of the Torah, or in answering to no higher authority than personal choice. One could say something similar about science, which ultimately has no higher authority than the collective peer judgement of scientists.
 
Freedom comes with uncertainty, obedience with false certainty.

I have not been positively impressed by neo-pagans, because it seems to me that they are not intellectually serious--they&#039;re just dressing up and playing roles out of a Renaissance Fair.

Especially what is put out by much of the Kiruv movement, a kind of lite jazz w/ out any soul. It&#039;s like, hang out w. us here not w &#039;them&#039; over there.

In a nutshell, one has to run away from Kavod, that is the foundation of Judaism imo. Everything positive stems from that.

Wishing all my Holy Brothers and Sisters a Shabbat Shalom UmoVorach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have either a belief and practice in G-d and by extension the dictates of the Torah, or in answering to no higher authority than personal choice. One could say something similar about science, which ultimately has no higher authority than the collective peer judgement of scientists.</p>
<p>Freedom comes with uncertainty, obedience with false certainty.</p>
<p>I have not been positively impressed by neo-pagans, because it seems to me that they are not intellectually serious&#8211;they&#8217;re just dressing up and playing roles out of a Renaissance Fair.</p>
<p>Especially what is put out by much of the Kiruv movement, a kind of lite jazz w/ out any soul. It&#8217;s like, hang out w. us here not w &#8216;them&#8217; over there.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, one has to run away from Kavod, that is the foundation of Judaism imo. Everything positive stems from that.</p>
<p>Wishing all my Holy Brothers and Sisters a Shabbat Shalom UmoVorach.</p>
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		<title>By: Ephraim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ephraim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ephraim sees your point. If we accept the proposition that there is a definable set of things, whatever they may be, that exists outside of and independent of individual Jews which defines &quot;Jewishness&quot;, then I am willing to concede the point that each individual Jew has no control over this set of characteristics. I&#039;m not sure I believe that, but Ephraim can see Muffti is getting at.

However, the Jewish identity, at least for Jews, is self-created. (Let&#039;s ignore how the goyim define us for a moment.) By deciding on what to emphasize, the organs and institutions of the Jewish community (schools, for example) can actively create the kind of Jew they want. My personal belief is that the unhealthy emphasis on thr Shoah is actively detrimental to the nurtuting of a healthy Jewish identity and that the institutions of the community should, while not ignoring the Shoah, concentrate on other things.

Each individual, of course, will shape their Jewish identity as they see fit. Personally, I prefer blintzes to genocide, but that&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ephraim sees your point. If we accept the proposition that there is a definable set of things, whatever they may be, that exists outside of and independent of individual Jews which defines &#8220;Jewishness&#8221;, then I am willing to concede the point that each individual Jew has no control over this set of characteristics. I&#8217;m not sure I believe that, but Ephraim can see Muffti is getting at.</p>
<p>However, the Jewish identity, at least for Jews, is self-created. (Let&#8217;s ignore how the goyim define us for a moment.) By deciding on what to emphasize, the organs and institutions of the Jewish community (schools, for example) can actively create the kind of Jew they want. My personal belief is that the unhealthy emphasis on thr Shoah is actively detrimental to the nurtuting of a healthy Jewish identity and that the institutions of the community should, while not ignoring the Shoah, concentrate on other things.</p>
<p>Each individual, of course, will shape their Jewish identity as they see fit. Personally, I prefer blintzes to genocide, but that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: grandmuffti</title>
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		<dc:creator>grandmuffti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the &#039;being moral&#039; approach to Judaism would piss off most atheists who aren&#039;t moral nihilists. Muffti sees your point: there is a bit of an equivocation, however, between notions of &#039;identity&#039;. There is an individual notion of identity, where an individual can align herself with some aspect of Judaism and &lt;i&gt;base&lt;/i&gt; her identity on that. There is another sense, in which there is a collective identity that we share and are a part of. And Muffti was thinking that we don&#039;t get to choose what composes that/what that is based on. It&#039;s just the collective set of things that shape our character as a group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the &#8216;being moral&#8217; approach to Judaism would piss off most atheists who aren&#8217;t moral nihilists. Muffti sees your point: there is a bit of an equivocation, however, between notions of &#8216;identity&#8217;. There is an individual notion of identity, where an individual can align herself with some aspect of Judaism and <i>base</i> her identity on that. There is another sense, in which there is a collective identity that we share and are a part of. And Muffti was thinking that we don&#8217;t get to choose what composes that/what that is based on. It&#8217;s just the collective set of things that shape our character as a group.</p>
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		<title>By: Ephraim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ephraim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t call you names, I told you to go away because you were hijacking the thread for your &quot;LOOK AT MEEEEEEE!!!!!!!&quot; shenanigans.

And learn to spell, would you please? &quot;They&#039;re hear again?&quot; What is that supposed to mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t call you names, I told you to go away because you were hijacking the thread for your &#8220;LOOK AT MEEEEEEE!!!!!!!&#8221; shenanigans.</p>
<p>And learn to spell, would you please? &#8220;They&#8217;re hear again?&#8221; What is that supposed to mean?</p>
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		<title>By: jsirpicco</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsirpicco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phray baby- what disagree? You called me NAMES! I was referring to my BRILLIANCE not going on the &quot;latest&quot; post board.

Still. I&#039;m taking my toys and  -- uh on. THEY&#039;RE HEAR AGAIN...SHOOT! 

PRAY FOR MEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phray baby- what disagree? You called me NAMES! I was referring to my BRILLIANCE not going on the &#8220;latest&#8221; post board.</p>
<p>Still. I&#8217;m taking my toys and  &#8212; uh on. THEY&#8217;RE HEAR AGAIN&#8230;SHOOT! </p>
<p>PRAY FOR MEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!</p>
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