Comments on: Aliyah: Conversations with Liel Liebovitz http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/ It's a Jewish Blog! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:17:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: mother in israel http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1300997 mother in israel Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:15:50 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1300997 I think he's related to the famous "Moshe Rabeynu." I think he’s related to the famous “Moshe Rabeynu.”

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1300938 themiddle Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:43:13 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1300938 Thanks Sage. "Samuel Nosherman" doesn't appear to exist other than in some very odd, sometimes funny, postings on the strangest websites. Thanks Sage.

“Samuel Nosherman” doesn’t appear to exist other than in some very odd, sometimes funny, postings on the strangest websites.

]]> By: SAMUEL NOSHERMAN http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1300866 SAMUEL NOSHERMAN Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:54:21 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1300866 ATTENTION FRUMMIES AND SABRAS: I AM CONTEMPLATING TAKING A VACATION IN ISRAEL THIS SUMMER AND I WOULD APPRECIATE ADVICE ON HOW TO COMPORT MYSELF WHILE TRAVELING AROUND JERUSALEM. I HAVE BEEN RAISED TO RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF WOMEN. I WOULD BE INCLINED TO OFFER PROTECTION TO A DEFENSELESS WOMAN IF I OBSERVED THAT SHE WAS IN SOME KIND OF DISTRESS. HOWEVER, I DO NOT WANT TO GO TO ANOTHER SOCIETY AND GET INVOLVED IN GRATUITOUS MAYHEM. PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR OPINION AS TO WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST REACTION IN THE FOLLOWING SCENARIO: I am taking a nice scenic bus ride in Jerusalem. A woman gets on the bus with her bag of groceries, pays her fare and sits on the only remaining available seat. A bunch of bearded men dressed in black start yelling at her and gesticulating wildly. The woman persists in remaining in her seat and the men start to pummel her and drag her from her seat. Her bag of groceries gets torn apart and the various items fall on the floor and are purposefully trampled upon by the men who proceed to slap and punch her. SHOULD I: A. Sit in my seat, mind my own business and make believe that nothing is going on? B. Join in and help the men punish the offending woman? C. Yell out to the men that they are making too much noise and should go about their business more quietly? D. Take photographs to show to the people back home. E. Pick out the most offensive of the black clad bearded men, punch him in his bearded mouth and drag him by his beard to the door and throw him off of the bus. After throwing the bearded bastard off of the bus, the next step would be helping the woman gather her groceries and escorting her back to her seat, stopping along the way to kick any other persisting bearded assailants in their baytsim . MY NATURAL PREDILECTION WOULD BE TO GO WITH ANSWER “E” BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE THE INPUT OF SEASONED ISRAELI FRUMMIES AND SABRAS SO I CAN MENTALLY PREPARE MYSELF FOR THE POSSIBILITY THAT I MIGHT HAVE TO GO AGAINST MY NATURAL INCLINATIONS. WHAT WOULD AN ISRAELI FRUMMY OR SABRA DO UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES? In appreciation for your kind advice: Samuel Nosherman SamuelNosherman@yahoo.com ATTENTION FRUMMIES AND SABRAS: I AM CONTEMPLATING TAKING A VACATION IN ISRAEL THIS SUMMER AND I WOULD APPRECIATE ADVICE ON HOW TO COMPORT MYSELF WHILE TRAVELING AROUND JERUSALEM. I HAVE BEEN RAISED TO RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF WOMEN. I WOULD BE INCLINED TO OFFER PROTECTION TO A DEFENSELESS WOMAN IF I OBSERVED THAT SHE WAS IN SOME KIND OF DISTRESS. HOWEVER, I DO NOT WANT TO GO TO ANOTHER SOCIETY AND GET INVOLVED IN GRATUITOUS MAYHEM. PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR OPINION AS TO WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST REACTION IN THE FOLLOWING SCENARIO:

I am taking a nice scenic bus ride in Jerusalem. A woman gets on the bus with her bag of groceries, pays her fare and sits on the only remaining available seat. A bunch of bearded men dressed in black start yelling at her and gesticulating wildly. The woman persists in remaining in her seat and the men start to pummel her and drag her from her seat. Her bag of groceries gets torn apart and the various items fall on the floor and are purposefully trampled upon by the men who proceed to slap and punch her. SHOULD I:

A. Sit in my seat, mind my own business and make believe that nothing is going on?

B. Join in and help the men punish the offending woman?

C. Yell out to the men that they are making too much noise and should go about their business more quietly?

D. Take photographs to show to the people back home.

E. Pick out the most offensive of the black clad bearded men, punch him in his bearded mouth and drag him by his beard to the door and throw him off of the bus. After throwing the bearded bastard off of the bus, the next step would be helping the woman gather her groceries and escorting her back to her seat, stopping along the way to kick any other persisting bearded assailants in their baytsim .

MY NATURAL PREDILECTION WOULD BE TO GO WITH ANSWER “E” BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE THE INPUT OF SEASONED ISRAELI FRUMMIES AND SABRAS SO I CAN MENTALLY PREPARE MYSELF FOR THE POSSIBILITY THAT I MIGHT HAVE TO GO AGAINST MY NATURAL INCLINATIONS. WHAT WOULD AN ISRAELI FRUMMY OR SABRA DO UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES?

In appreciation for your kind advice:
Samuel Nosherman
SamuelNosherman@yahoo.com

]]> By: moe sedwik http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1246269 moe sedwik Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:47:09 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1246269 hey fellas.....listen......my sister is half jewish half combodian, adopted by a converso lady whose grandfather was an incan indian but practices mormonism.....can her nieghbors make aliyah??? hey fellas…..listen……my sister is half jewish half combodian, adopted by a converso lady whose grandfather was an incan indian but practices mormonism…..can her nieghbors make aliyah???

]]> By: shlomo jones http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1246266 shlomo jones Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:44:30 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1246266 of course you do......because its your trick.......i learned it from you middle froline.......its a great way ti win an argument...have an extra guy on the sidelines... of course you do……because its your trick…….i learned it from you middle froline…….its a great way ti win an argument…have an extra guy on the sidelines…

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1246086 themiddle Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:35:58 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1246086 Uh, Shlomo, we know you are Adam. Uh, Shlomo, we know you are Adam.

]]> By: shlomo jones http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245920 shlomo jones Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:26:30 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245920 hi guys. i saw your blog and wanted to join in. ive been considering aliyah for some time. im worried about my ability to fins a job in my sector. im a professional cake decorator from the albany conectionary arts university cuma de laude. i guess we'll see...... so i enjoyed the history lesson above. this adam guy is great. if we had 10,000 of him in israel a lot of problems would be solved. regardless, my name is jones and my great great grandfather on my mothers side was a great rav in belarus. but then froylein, remember that at the time of the alsace the karaites werent ashkenazi semites, but turkic semites. understand that the jewish population of germany moved east to present day poland/ukraine to escape this travesty....so when the karaites merged with the ashkenazi 200 years later they descendants became ashkenazi. draw a parallel to a ashkenazi jew who moved to spain and was named ashkenazi and now 500 years later he is sephardic. and adam. i like that idea. make israel work for you. i guess its better your coming to israel, building the popualtion, spending money around town, then sitting in america dating a girl from the reform temple. talk soon fellows. shlomo but i know what he's saying about the karaites. i went to day school with a kid and i vaguely remember him telling about some sort of european hidden jew converso type thing. it didnt mater though ,as his mother was jewish and the family went to the conservative temple. alright dudes! hi guys. i saw your blog and wanted to join in. ive been considering aliyah for some time. im worried about my ability to fins a job in my sector. im a professional cake decorator from the albany conectionary arts university cuma de laude. i guess we’ll see……
so i enjoyed the history lesson above.
this adam guy is great. if we had 10,000 of him in israel a lot of problems would be solved. regardless, my name is jones and my great great grandfather on my mothers side was a great rav in belarus. but then froylein, remember that at the time of the alsace the karaites werent ashkenazi semites, but turkic semites. understand that the jewish population of germany moved east to present day poland/ukraine to escape this travesty….so when the karaites merged with the ashkenazi 200 years later they descendants became ashkenazi. draw a parallel to a ashkenazi jew who moved to spain and was named ashkenazi and now 500 years later he is sephardic.
and adam. i like that idea. make israel work for you. i guess its better your coming to israel, building the popualtion, spending money around town, then sitting in america dating a girl from the reform temple.
talk soon fellows. shlomo
but i know what he’s saying about the karaites. i went to day school with a kid and i vaguely remember him telling about some sort of european hidden jew converso type thing. it didnt mater though ,as his mother was jewish and the family went to the conservative temple.
alright dudes!

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245874 froylein Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:34:32 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245874 I'm 29 and have got waist-length hair. Apart from that, somebody who knows how to spell knows how to spell even if he's in a hurry. There's no part in your Broca's and Wernicke's area that makes you misspell when you're not putting effort into your writing unless your orthography is bad to begin with. I’m 29 and have got waist-length hair.

Apart from that, somebody who knows how to spell knows how to spell even if he’s in a hurry. There’s no part in your Broca’s and Wernicke’s area that makes you misspell when you’re not putting effort into your writing unless your orthography is bad to begin with.

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245697 themiddle Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:07:47 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245697 Nah, who am I kidding, if I sent you a photo, you'd put it on the internet. :lol: Nah, who am I kidding, if I sent you a photo, you’d put it on the internet. :lol:

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245695 themiddle Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:07:00 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245695 $500? Make it a $1000 plus another $1000 to charity of my choice and I'll consider having ck send you a photo of me well past 28 with lots and lots of hair. $500?

Make it a $1000 plus another $1000 to charity of my choice and I’ll consider having ck send you a photo of me well past 28 with lots and lots of hair.

]]> By: adam kramer http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245610 adam kramer Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:42:54 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245610 and guys.....lets be honest here......we blogging......i think there is a relationship between the facts that when i had a beautiful girlfriend i didnt blog, and now im single, bored, and now blogged all day for the last week.. im a computer nerd whether i like it or not.....and ive been on both sides of this.....so its say safe to say none of us having a gorgeous, cool girl we are excited about hanging out with because were sitting on the machshev having a salami fest..... so that being the case, lets focus on the aliyah aspects and continue on the historical topics....... and blogging isnt a five paragerph essay, its like a conversation...you type what you say how you would say it...that being the case, lets focus on the meat and not the packaging.....in other words, i dont need to waster times spelling correctly and inadvertenly waste valuable typing time for real shit....you know?...and again, when you have a 142iq that has manifested into working 2 hours a month at 3k an hour at the age 28, then you dont need to spell right.......okay...so what are your takes on my understanding of khazaria...am i missing something????? and guys…..lets be honest here……we blogging……i think there is a relationship between the facts that when i had a beautiful girlfriend i didnt blog, and now im single, bored, and now blogged all day for the last week..
im a computer nerd whether i like it or not…..and ive been on both sides of this…..so its say safe to say none of us having a gorgeous, cool girl we are excited about hanging out with because were sitting on the machshev having a salami fest…..
so that being the case, lets focus on the aliyah aspects and continue on the historical topics…….
and blogging isnt a five paragerph essay, its like a conversation…you type what you say how you would say it…that being the case, lets focus on the meat and not the packaging…..in other words, i dont need to waster times spelling correctly and inadvertenly waste valuable typing time for real shit….you know?…and again, when you have a 142iq that has manifested into working 2 hours a month at 3k an hour at the age 28, then you dont need to spell right…….okay…so what are your takes on my understanding of khazaria…am i missing something?????

]]> By: adam kramer http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245595 adam kramer Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:26:14 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245595 i dont what to believe anymore with you 2........... but i can make you a monetary bet....i will western union you 500$ today if either of you can present a photo of yourself at age 28 displaying a juvenile hairline fuller than mine.....it doesnt exist guys....ive got the hair.....not you....me..... either way it'll fall out and i know it so i enjoy it now....regardless, thats not what we are to talk about.... look...we all our own history and our understandings of things....the important thing is we are debating, figuring things out, and learning......this is better than watching football, smoking dope, or becoming intrigued with hinduism...... so i think we have more in common than we might think..... so you guys are well read...... i do my reseach and find it hard at times to navigate through the unbiased facts and the simple anti-semitism as manifests in familial slander that arised with this issue.........im fairly confused about khazaria......i have some ideas..... can anyone educate me on this????.......(yes,, a ghetto karaite zionist asking for help.....mark this day down)... -my basic understanding is that about 20,000-50,000 people converted....basically the nobilty and power structure... they were a small pop. in comparison to all the other jewish communites that came to this tolerant land....there were jews comong from all direction....karaites from babylonia and rabbinates from the rhine....my understanding of the khazar pop. was heathens, christians, muslims, and jewish.....the non-jewish khazars faded in to gen. pop after the khazaria fell, while the khazarian jews ( no longer converts at this point, as after 200 hundred years of marrying into rabbinate and karaite jewry they were largely ethnically and semitically jewish at this point and really didnt differ too much from the old school jews....) assimilated into their community, th larger ashkenazi/jewish/semtic/ bulk of european jewry... it seems to day as khazar is one of arguably one hundreds of small ethnicites that came and went that on some tiny level that now compose modern day ashkenazi........again, in america most of our family came from russia so we associate it with certain names, culture, appearnace, and so on....but what about ashkenazi in america in 1850 prior to 2 million ashkenazi coming here, who were from germany????........so we'll always be ashkenaz, but the composition of us change slowly over the years......and it seems these terms will be all but useless in 200 years in israel as sephardic and ashkenaz remesh and become basically the same people as we were thousands of years ago....... so id have to do the math, but it would seem as if 1/50 american jews( or jews anywhere who came from this region, karaite or rabbinic)are technically 1-5% khazar,and 95-99% whatever else composes ashkenazi........ so anyone with any insight let me know......i i dont what to believe anymore with you 2………..
but i can make you a monetary bet….i will western union you 500$ today if either of you can present a photo of yourself at age 28 displaying a juvenile hairline fuller than mine…..it doesnt exist guys….ive got the hair…..not you….me…..
either way it’ll fall out and i know it so i enjoy it now….regardless, thats not what we are to talk about….

look…we all our own history and our understandings of things….the important thing is we are debating, figuring things out, and learning……this is better than watching football, smoking dope, or becoming intrigued with hinduism……

so i think we have more in common than we might think…..
so you guys are well read…… i do my reseach and find it hard at times to navigate through the unbiased facts and the simple anti-semitism as manifests in familial slander that arised with this issue………im fairly confused about khazaria……i have some ideas…..
can anyone educate me on this????…….(yes,, a ghetto karaite zionist asking for help…..mark this day down)…
-my basic understanding is that about 20,000-50,000 people converted….basically the nobilty and power structure…
they were a small pop. in comparison to all the other jewish communites that came to this tolerant land….there were jews comong from all direction….karaites from babylonia and rabbinates from the rhine….my understanding of the khazar pop. was heathens, christians, muslims, and jewish…..the non-jewish khazars faded in to gen. pop after the khazaria fell, while the khazarian jews ( no longer converts at this point, as after 200 hundred years of marrying into rabbinate and karaite jewry they were largely ethnically and semitically jewish at this point and really didnt differ too much from the old school jews….) assimilated into their community, th larger ashkenazi/jewish/semtic/ bulk of european jewry…
it seems to day as khazar is one of arguably one hundreds of small ethnicites that came and went that on some tiny level that now compose modern day ashkenazi……..again, in america most of our family came from russia so we associate it with certain names, culture, appearnace, and so on….but what about ashkenazi in america in 1850 prior to 2 million ashkenazi coming here, who were from germany????……..so we’ll always be ashkenaz, but the composition of us change slowly over the years……and it seems these terms will be all but useless in 200 years in israel as sephardic and ashkenaz remesh and become basically the same people as we were thousands of years ago…….
so id have to do the math, but it would seem as if 1/50 american jews( or jews anywhere who came from this region, karaite or rabbinic)are technically 1-5% khazar,and 95-99% whatever else composes ashkenazi……..

so anyone with any insight let me know……i

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245473 themiddle Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:28:13 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245473 Seriously, Muffti is the handsome one. And he's single. Seriously, Muffti is the handsome one. And he’s single.

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245446 froylein Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:05:50 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245446 You and Muffti should start a support group for handsome J-bloggers. :) You and Muffti should start a support group for handsome J-bloggers.

:)

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245395 themiddle Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:25:41 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245395 I feel so...abused! I'd like people to appreciate me for my intellect and instead, they all want to focus on my looks. ;) I feel so…abused! I’d like people to appreciate me for my intellect and instead, they all want to focus on my looks.

;)

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245382 froylein Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:10:39 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245382 Muffti has told me so, and if Muffti already admits that another male could indeed be handsome, there must be something to it. That, and <i>per definitionem</i>, Jewlicious is the best-looking J-blog out there. Muffti has told me so, and if Muffti already admits that another male could indeed be handsome, there must be something to it.

That, and per definitionem, Jewlicious is the best-looking J-blog out there.

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245375 themiddle Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:05:44 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245375 No way, how would you know? You've only seen the penguin outfit. No way, how would you know?

You’ve only seen the penguin outfit.

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245367 froylein Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:01:37 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245367 Middle's a handsome chap. Middle’s a handsome chap.

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1245364 themiddle Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:57:33 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1245364 I don't know, Adam. Unlike you, I know how to spell, and unlike you, I met my wife without resorting to cattle herding maneuvers. And now, excuse me while I go brush my full head of hair. I don’t know, Adam. Unlike you, I know how to spell, and unlike you, I met my wife without resorting to cattle herding maneuvers.

And now, excuse me while I go brush my full head of hair.

]]> By: adam kramer http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/01/aliyah-conversations-with-liel-liebovitz/#comment-1244382 adam kramer Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:01:42 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1727#comment-1244382 oh yeah, middle...thanks for the well wishes........and i too consider you my brother........just funny looking and not as smart....... oh yeah, middle…thanks for the well wishes……..and i too consider you my brother……..just funny looking and not as smart…….

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