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		<title>By: charles paver</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/another-group-jews-are-involved-in/comment-page-1/#comment-225318</link>
		<dc:creator>charles paver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 01:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no ofri--trading opinions in the free marketplace of ideas is a good exercise, if you will, to air out the dirty laundry, and to bring some of your ilk back down to earth.

the original question proposed was why are the jews so successful in the academics? and the reason, i still believe, and will continue to believe until proven otherwise, are the reasons stated as above: refusal to assimilate, sharing of precious information (or monopolizing that information), extremely tight networking, and the idea of being special. you people are so funny--implying a genetic factor! as if mecantile skills acquired over 5k years or whatever is going to ring a genetic component, when most secular compatriots claim racial and genetic equality for the rest of us! think of the ARROGANCE. 

want to watch something funny? watch pinker&#039;s lecture on jews and IQ--seems that the OP watched it in earnest, and was inspired from it. self-congratulations always works well amongst ones own. 

and ofri--if you think you have the reason for the pre-dominance, please, by all means, share it. if not, just keep it quiet then. i offered an outsider perspective, not based on self-emulation, but on true reflection. 

you guys miss the main point of assimilation + nurturing. can you imagine the influence on anyone, raised from birth, being told repeatedly how special they were, how they are god&#039;s people, how they are the chosen ones, how they have a social obligation to essentially excel in whatever endeavor they enter?! on top of that, can u imagine how much societal pressures influence people with relatively high IQ&#039;s into deviant or misplaced activities?! PUT 2 and 2 TOGETHER, OFRI!!!

and i agree, to a certain extent, that there are numerous jews who haven&#039;t been able to reach the bars their other kin have set. but i do urge you, if you have time, to go to jewwatch.com and though i do think it is a hate-site, just to click on the link for jewish power. un-freaking-believable. and us SHEEP let it happen. can anyone say, grassroots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no ofri&#8211;trading opinions in the free marketplace of ideas is a good exercise, if you will, to air out the dirty laundry, and to bring some of your ilk back down to earth.</p>
<p>the original question proposed was why are the jews so successful in the academics? and the reason, i still believe, and will continue to believe until proven otherwise, are the reasons stated as above: refusal to assimilate, sharing of precious information (or monopolizing that information), extremely tight networking, and the idea of being special. you people are so funny&#8211;implying a genetic factor! as if mecantile skills acquired over 5k years or whatever is going to ring a genetic component, when most secular compatriots claim racial and genetic equality for the rest of us! think of the ARROGANCE. </p>
<p>want to watch something funny? watch pinker&#8217;s lecture on jews and IQ&#8211;seems that the OP watched it in earnest, and was inspired from it. self-congratulations always works well amongst ones own. </p>
<p>and ofri&#8211;if you think you have the reason for the pre-dominance, please, by all means, share it. if not, just keep it quiet then. i offered an outsider perspective, not based on self-emulation, but on true reflection. </p>
<p>you guys miss the main point of assimilation + nurturing. can you imagine the influence on anyone, raised from birth, being told repeatedly how special they were, how they are god&#8217;s people, how they are the chosen ones, how they have a social obligation to essentially excel in whatever endeavor they enter?! on top of that, can u imagine how much societal pressures influence people with relatively high IQ&#8217;s into deviant or misplaced activities?! PUT 2 and 2 TOGETHER, OFRI!!!</p>
<p>and i agree, to a certain extent, that there are numerous jews who haven&#8217;t been able to reach the bars their other kin have set. but i do urge you, if you have time, to go to jewwatch.com and though i do think it is a hate-site, just to click on the link for jewish power. un-freaking-believable. and us SHEEP let it happen. can anyone say, grassroots?</p>
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		<title>By: ofri</title>
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		<dc:creator>ofri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree somewhat about the comparison to Indian communities in the United States. There are successful, tight-knit and active Indian communities with smart, hard working professionals who do well and help each other out and socialize amongst themselves. However, Charles, lots of Jews (and I&#039;m sure lots of Indians in the United States) are not well to do, don&#039;t own multiple properties, and some aren&#039;t even that smart, believe it or not. There are large communities that foster education and hard work and yes, they do things for others in the group, if that&#039;s what you mean by networking. That&#039;s our prerogative. There are literally hundreds of Jews in the relatively small city where I live who are in no way active in any Jewish community, much less a religious one. Anyway my point is, Charles, that you think that all Jews are successful because those are the only ones you notice. Do you even know any Jews? To say that Jews don&#039;t get tattoos is completely absurd. I know plenty who do. Maybe fewer Jews get tattoos because there is a Jewish law against them? That doesn&#039;t stop all of us, though. Anyway it doesn&#039;t sound like you know as much as you like to think you do about the Jewish people. Also comments like Charles&#039;s are a good reason, in my opinion, to abstain from obsessing over how great we Jews are and why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree somewhat about the comparison to Indian communities in the United States. There are successful, tight-knit and active Indian communities with smart, hard working professionals who do well and help each other out and socialize amongst themselves. However, Charles, lots of Jews (and I&#8217;m sure lots of Indians in the United States) are not well to do, don&#8217;t own multiple properties, and some aren&#8217;t even that smart, believe it or not. There are large communities that foster education and hard work and yes, they do things for others in the group, if that&#8217;s what you mean by networking. That&#8217;s our prerogative. There are literally hundreds of Jews in the relatively small city where I live who are in no way active in any Jewish community, much less a religious one. Anyway my point is, Charles, that you think that all Jews are successful because those are the only ones you notice. Do you even know any Jews? To say that Jews don&#8217;t get tattoos is completely absurd. I know plenty who do. Maybe fewer Jews get tattoos because there is a Jewish law against them? That doesn&#8217;t stop all of us, though. Anyway it doesn&#8217;t sound like you know as much as you like to think you do about the Jewish people. Also comments like Charles&#8217;s are a good reason, in my opinion, to abstain from obsessing over how great we Jews are and why.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, Charles. Thanks and bye.</description>
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		<title>By: charles paver</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles paver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please stop trying to be the perennial victims of society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please stop trying to be the perennial victims of society.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles, dude, you&#039;re all over the place. Think hard and focus. What are you really trying to say here? Let me help you, since you&#039;re gentile. We control everything. If there are people getting tattoos, it&#039;s because we have put out movies with people wearing tattoos. If musicians have spiky hair or pierced tongues, it&#039;s because the head office sent a message to the music producers to make it a fad. You are nothing but a puppet in our hands.

Excuse me now, I have to go to call my mommy because she hasn&#039;t told me she loves me in at least three hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, dude, you&#8217;re all over the place. Think hard and focus. What are you really trying to say here? Let me help you, since you&#8217;re gentile. We control everything. If there are people getting tattoos, it&#8217;s because we have put out movies with people wearing tattoos. If musicians have spiky hair or pierced tongues, it&#8217;s because the head office sent a message to the music producers to make it a fad. You are nothing but a puppet in our hands.</p>
<p>Excuse me now, I have to go to call my mommy because she hasn&#8217;t told me she loves me in at least three hours.</p>
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		<title>By: charles paver</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles paver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one more thing--i didnt mean recreational activities such as track and field, bowling, etc. 

i meant counter-culture, if you will. or trendy culture. just think real long and hard how many jewish people get tattoos, or join the military, etc. they certainly are an exclusive community--but i would argue, no different than indians here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more thing&#8211;i didnt mean recreational activities such as track and field, bowling, etc. </p>
<p>i meant counter-culture, if you will. or trendy culture. just think real long and hard how many jewish people get tattoos, or join the military, etc. they certainly are an exclusive community&#8211;but i would argue, no different than indians here.</p>
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		<title>By: charles paver</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles paver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wasn&#039;t trying to offend anyone at all, just trying to help you understand the reason for your success. 
after i typed that in the other day, i also thought of another reason: lack of recreational activities. think about it: how many jews do you know have tattoos? or tongue piercings? or freaked out hair? 
every single one of them thta i know do not get involved with, what i properly think, the decadence of our society. how many are non-conformists? virtually all, it seems.

if you want to try something interesting, if you have the time, do this. do a search under the web, for new jersey property tax records. ok? then choose passiac county (there is an orthodox ocmmunity out there) and put in very jewish sounding last names? like cohen, weinstein, etc. 

you cannot believe how many of the residents there own multiple properties or businesses--it literally blew me away, considering passaic city is a dump and passiac park is beautiful. they resided in passaic park and had investments in passaic city. coincidence? a whole community full?

im not saying that jewish people or bad, etc. i think they have a very successful, and admirable to a fault, model that we gentiles ought to follow. 

and regarding point #31, the mommy-coddling theory, is probably more suited as to why jews are more liberal as a group than others.

hey, im not perfect, but only offering goyim insights as to what accounts for jewish success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wasn&#8217;t trying to offend anyone at all, just trying to help you understand the reason for your success.<br />
after i typed that in the other day, i also thought of another reason: lack of recreational activities. think about it: how many jews do you know have tattoos? or tongue piercings? or freaked out hair?<br />
every single one of them thta i know do not get involved with, what i properly think, the decadence of our society. how many are non-conformists? virtually all, it seems.</p>
<p>if you want to try something interesting, if you have the time, do this. do a search under the web, for new jersey property tax records. ok? then choose passiac county (there is an orthodox ocmmunity out there) and put in very jewish sounding last names? like cohen, weinstein, etc. </p>
<p>you cannot believe how many of the residents there own multiple properties or businesses&#8211;it literally blew me away, considering passaic city is a dump and passiac park is beautiful. they resided in passaic park and had investments in passaic city. coincidence? a whole community full?</p>
<p>im not saying that jewish people or bad, etc. i think they have a very successful, and admirable to a fault, model that we gentiles ought to follow. </p>
<p>and regarding point #31, the mommy-coddling theory, is probably more suited as to why jews are more liberal as a group than others.</p>
<p>hey, im not perfect, but only offering goyim insights as to what accounts for jewish success.</p>
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		<title>By: DiGiTaL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DiGiTaL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 04:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YEa JObber, I was mildly entertained by his Mommy coddling theory, although I feel the mommy neurotcism theory to be more applicable. Jewish Networking and unity?? Ummm, where does that exist? I think Ben Baruch is right on the money too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEa JObber, I was mildly entertained by his Mommy coddling theory, although I feel the mommy neurotcism theory to be more applicable. Jewish Networking and unity?? Ummm, where does that exist? I think Ben Baruch is right on the money too</p>
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		<title>By: grandmuffti</title>
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		<dc:creator>grandmuffti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Muffti can assure you Charles, TM is pretty special...

Jobber, chill out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Muffti can assure you Charles, TM is pretty special&#8230;</p>
<p>Jobber, chill out!</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just re-read Rokhl&#039;s comment #10 and it is right on target. 

Charles Paver, I know what you mean. My mom never told me I was smart or special and look how I turned out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just re-read Rokhl&#8217;s comment #10 and it is right on target. </p>
<p>Charles Paver, I know what you mean. My mom never told me I was smart or special and look how I turned out.</p>
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