Comments on: We Zionists caused the “Cartoon Backlash” http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/ It's a Jewish Blog! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:17:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Homicidal Palestinian: Will Oy Bay be my Friend? « Oy Bay! http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-394708 Homicidal Palestinian: Will Oy Bay be my Friend? « Oy Bay! Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:23:47 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-394708 [...] So yeah. Tough cookies. I won’t add you as a friend. During AAMA’s talk, he started goading for all the “Zionist Israeli spies” to take out their cameras and tape-recorders. So I did. I took out my camera and started recording his speech. Then, one of his big black-cloaked body-guards (which were positioned menacingly throughout the room), approached me and demanded that I give him my camera. I said, “But AAMA told me to!” So I just put it away and the meat-helmet walked away. I’ll post up the few pictures of AAMA that I did get later. [...] [...] So yeah. Tough cookies. I won’t add you as a friend. During AAMA’s talk, he started goading for all the “Zionist Israeli spies” to take out their cameras and tape-recorders. So I did. I took out my camera and started recording his speech. Then, one of his big black-cloaked body-guards (which were positioned menacingly throughout the room), approached me and demanded that I give him my camera. I said, “But AAMA told me to!” So I just put it away and the meat-helmet walked away. I’ll post up the few pictures of AAMA that I did get later. [...]

]]> By: Rabbi Yonah http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-182825 Rabbi Yonah Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:12:30 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-182825 Dan S- Got it, i though that your comment meant "See, this is a racist paper, and what do expect from racists?" Or something along those lines. My mistake. Meanwhile the senate is silent and we are hoping there will be more support to do something. Interestingly, as soon as the MSA got wind of the Senators plans against them... The Senator received angry email and his organization’s sign on campus was vandalized with a swastika. Immediately the student group got a response from the Deans office. Now last year when over a dozen stakes and posters put up by Hillel that were from Blue Star PR and Stand With Us, they were kicked down and trampled the SAME DAY. <a href="http://beachhillel.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=275" rel="nofollow">In broad daylight.</a> The police and the Deans office did nothing. They said “there are over 34,000 students here and we cannot monitor everything they do”. Now that a Christian sign was vandalized, hopefully, they will do something. Dan S- Got it, i though that your comment meant “See, this is a racist paper, and what do expect from racists?” Or something along those lines. My mistake.

Meanwhile the senate is silent and we are hoping there will be more support to do something. Interestingly, as soon as the MSA got wind of the Senators plans against them… The Senator received angry email and his organization’s sign on campus was vandalized with a swastika.

Immediately the student group got a response from the Deans office. Now last year when over a dozen stakes and posters put up by Hillel that were from Blue Star PR and Stand With Us, they were kicked down and trampled the SAME DAY. In broad daylight. The police and the Deans office did nothing. They said “there are over 34,000 students here and we cannot monitor everything they do”. Now that a Christian sign was vandalized, hopefully, they will do something.

]]> By: Joe Grossberg http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-182264 Joe Grossberg Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:14:24 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-182264 <strong>Who's Was Behind the Danish Cartoon Conflict?</strong> The Jews, naturally. Specifically, Zionist Jews who planned, years ahead, to plant cartoons that would spark a deadly conflict months... Who’s Was Behind the Danish Cartoon Conflict?

The Jews, naturally. Specifically, Zionist Jews who planned, years ahead, to plant cartoons that would spark a deadly conflict months…

]]> By: Dan S http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-182245 Dan S Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:58:26 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-182245 Rabbi Yonah - my point exactly. One doesn't expect a paper with a pro-Nazi past to be "controlled" (or in cahoots or whatever that speaker claimed) with Zionists... Rabbi Yonah – my point exactly. One doesn’t expect a paper with a pro-Nazi past to be “controlled” (or in cahoots or whatever that speaker claimed) with Zionists…

]]> By: Michael Weinstock http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-182080 Michael Weinstock Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:08:17 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-182080 Rav Yonah, בס’ד This is the same guy that disrupts the students during classes at UC Irvine. He stations himself in the main courtyard with hate speech and a microphone, flying fists and a podium. His speeches end up surrounded by curious students and observant Muslims chanting, "Alla Hu Akbar" three times in succession, responding to his pep talk. Whenever I come to the section of the Amidah concerning how Hashem should wipe out the evil in the world, invariably, this man's face and anger flashes in my mind. I'll see both yourself and Rafi for Shabbos sometime, Mikey Rav Yonah, בס’ד

This is the same guy that disrupts the students during classes at UC Irvine. He stations himself in the main courtyard with hate speech and a microphone, flying fists and a podium.
His speeches end up surrounded by curious students and observant Muslims chanting, “Alla Hu Akbar” three times in succession, responding to his pep talk.
Whenever I come to the section of the Amidah concerning how Hashem should wipe out the evil in the world, invariably, this man’s face and anger flashes in my mind.

I’ll see both yourself and Rafi for Shabbos sometime,

Mikey

]]> By: jc. http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-182069 jc. Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:49:24 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-182069 The truth of the matter is that the danish paper was just pissing on a despised and weak minority group in denmark, recent danish politics and laws are clearly indicative of danish racism. Freedom of speech was not an issue, bullying was. However the newspaper found itsself much in the position of a hunter who is busy poking a bear cub with a stick not noticing mamma bear behind them. The Danish prime minister refused to meet with a large group of muslim ambassadors who wished to protest the "cartoons". He could have met them and explained the concept of free press, which is non-existent in their countries, and at least treated them with diplomatic respect. It is hard to imagine the danish prime minister ignoring so nonchalantly a request for a meeting by a large group of european ambassadors whatever their complaint. Of course the Religious muslims had their own agend and played it out. It would be nice to see groups of muslims protesting something serious like the stoning to death of an adultress or something. Of course it be would nice to see any fundamentilist religious group protesting anything serious and as industriuosly as they protest "violations" of the sabbath or other peoples sex lives. Lets face it both sides of the cartoon war is a no win situation for anyone interested in a better world. The truth of the matter is that the danish paper was just pissing on a despised and weak minority group in denmark, recent danish politics and laws are clearly indicative of danish racism.
Freedom of speech was not an issue, bullying was.
However the newspaper found itsself much in the position of a hunter who is busy poking a bear cub with a stick not noticing mamma bear behind them.
The Danish prime minister refused to meet with a large group of muslim ambassadors who wished to protest the “cartoons”. He could have met them and explained the concept of free press, which is non-existent in their countries, and at least treated them with diplomatic respect. It is hard to imagine the danish prime minister ignoring so nonchalantly a request for a meeting by a large group of european ambassadors whatever their complaint.
Of course the Religious muslims had their own agend and played it out. It would be nice to see groups of muslims protesting something serious like the stoning to death of an adultress or something. Of course it be would nice to see any fundamentilist religious group protesting anything serious and as industriuosly as they protest “violations” of the sabbath or other peoples sex lives.
Lets face it both sides of the cartoon war is a no win situation for anyone interested in a better world.

]]> By: Rabbi Yonah http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-182056 Rabbi Yonah Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:23:00 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-182056 And your point is... The offending cartoons are not part of a Jewish conspiracy, that was the main point of the piece. That this paper has a history that is unpleasant, doesn't alter a bit my assertion that a)they had a right to print it and b)the Jews were not behind it. And your point is… The offending cartoons are not part of a Jewish conspiracy, that was the main point of the piece. That this paper has a history that is unpleasant, doesn’t alter a bit my assertion that a)they had a right to print it and b)the Jews were not behind it.

]]> By: Dan S http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-181754 Dan S Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:29:15 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-181754 I guess you <a href="http://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/news/2006/02/quote_of_the_we_1.html" target="_blank">haven't seen this</a> Jyllands-Posten (did the speaker even know the name of the paper?) was pro-Nazi. I guess you haven’t seen this

Jyllands-Posten (did the speaker even know the name of the paper?) was pro-Nazi.

]]> By: Sarah N http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-181740 Sarah N Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:13:01 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-181740 Hi RY, I just posted your article on Virtual Jerusalem (www.virtualjerusalem.com). I'm the new managing editor, its great, I am the media! Let me know when you have interesting articles, press releases etc... Hi RY, I just posted your article on Virtual Jerusalem (www.virtualjerusalem.com). I’m the new managing editor, its great, I am the media! Let me know when you have interesting articles, press releases etc…

]]> By: Rabbi Yonah http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-181719 Rabbi Yonah Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:18:32 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-181719 NEWS FLASH! My video and article are making progress. Some Christian senators are getting on board to try to stop funding the MSA... Details when they happen NEWS FLASH! My video and article are making progress. Some Christian senators are getting on board to try to stop funding the MSA… Details when they happen

]]> By: G-D SQUAD http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-181717 G-D SQUAD Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:15:30 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-181717 Great post, Rabbi Yonah. Abdel Malik Ali spoke at UCSC before too, unfortunately, along with other anti-Semitic and anti-Israel speakers brought by the Muslim Student Alliance and Committee for Justice in Palestine. I have my own views on why so many students at UCSC support what these speakers have to say. But I've found that once you sit down and have a rational conversation with any of the mostly ignorant, good-intentioned students about Israel and the middle east, it's just that they've been mis-educated. I spoke with a girl recently who had a palestinian flag key chain. I found out she had mostly just been brain washed, and had received almost all of her information from the MSA and CJP about the topic. At the end of our single conversation, she had a whole new world view. I would like to quote this message I received via myspace from Rafi of Beach Hillel: In the face of Muslim extremist myspace sites going up right and left, i decided to create a pro Israel site showing how full of shit they just really are. If you for one second think we are safe anywhere but in the Holy Land given to us by none other that God Himself, you are gravely mistaken. Wherever I go I'm a witness to growing anti-Semitism mostly, but not only, among Muslims. Extremist speakers are being brought onto college campuses spreading hate speech by claiming that no one else but "Zionist Jews" are behind all evil in the world. From 9/11 to the Danish cartoons and far beyond. We as a nation have to unite and say "NO" to these fascist statements. One goal of this page is to bring as many Jews together as possible. Jews from all backgrounds, religious and not, reform and orthodox. It is to show every single one of them how Israel is truly their homeland, something that no one can deny them. It is also to be able to reach as many of us with important updates and news about the crazy times we're living in. Please repost this bulletin and help to spread the word, it is up to us to make this happen! One nation, One land, One God... Much Love to all of you, Rafi The link is <a href="www.myspace.com/jewhome" rel="nofollow">www.myspace.com/jewhome</a> P.S This site is just going up, there's not much on it yet. Keep on checking in for blogs, messages and bulletins. Great post, Rabbi Yonah. Abdel Malik Ali spoke at UCSC before too, unfortunately, along with other anti-Semitic and anti-Israel speakers brought by the Muslim Student Alliance and Committee for Justice in Palestine.

I have my own views on why so many students at UCSC support what these speakers have to say. But I’ve found that once you sit down and have a rational conversation with any of the mostly ignorant, good-intentioned students about Israel and the middle east, it’s just that they’ve been mis-educated.

I spoke with a girl recently who had a palestinian flag key chain. I found out she had mostly just been brain washed, and had received almost all of her information from the MSA and CJP about the topic. At the end of our single conversation, she had a whole new world view.

I would like to quote this message I received via myspace from Rafi of Beach Hillel:

In the face of Muslim extremist myspace sites going up right and left, i decided to create a pro Israel site showing how full of shit they just really are.

If you for one second think we are safe anywhere but in the Holy Land given to us by none other that God Himself, you are gravely mistaken.

Wherever I go I’m a witness to growing anti-Semitism mostly, but not only, among Muslims. Extremist speakers are being brought onto college campuses spreading hate speech by claiming that no one else but “Zionist Jews” are behind all evil in the world. From 9/11 to the Danish cartoons and far beyond.

We as a nation have to unite and say “NO” to these fascist statements. One goal of this page is to bring as many Jews together as possible. Jews from all backgrounds, religious and not, reform and orthodox.

It is to show every single one of them how Israel is truly their homeland, something that no one can deny them. It is also to be able to reach as many of us with important updates and news about the crazy times we’re living in.

Please repost this bulletin and help to spread the word, it is up to us to make this happen!

One nation, One land, One God…

Much Love to all of you, Rafi

The link is myspace.com/je...
P.S

This site is just going up, there’s not much on it yet. Keep on checking in for blogs, messages and bulletins.

]]> By: Brittney Bush http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-181714 Brittney Bush Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:05:33 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-181714 It's pretty cool to know you're so powerful, though, eh? It’s pretty cool to know you’re so powerful, though, eh?

]]> By: DeisCane http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-181702 DeisCane Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:12:32 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-181702 As I read this post, the thought going through my mind was, "I wish he shot that jackass when he said that." I've never said or thought anything like that, but I just can't think of anything else now. As I read this post, the thought going through my mind was, “I wish he shot that jackass when he said that.” I’ve never said or thought anything like that, but I just can’t think of anything else now.

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/03/we-zionists-caused-the-cartoon-backlash/#comment-181612 themiddle Tue, 07 Mar 2006 10:28:52 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1826#comment-181612 Is it legal for them to use the funds for these purposes? Free speech is fine, but does it have to be financed when it promotes hate speech? This would be laughably stupid if it wasn't so real and if people weren't being educated by these haters. Soon, in a city near my part of the country, an apologist for the current Iran regime is coming to give a talk to a student organization that I believe is affiliated with the largest Muslim organization on a large nearby campus (organization is funded by Saudi money). Unlike your spittling speaker, ours has a Ph.D. and an academic career in the sciences. In other words, it is not easy to dismiss him as an irrational kook. Well, except for the part where he says that the West shouldn't be so surprised when the Iranian President denies the Holocaust happened. After all, says this learned academic, Jews and Zionists know that imams in the Arab world have been saying this kind of nasty anti-Jewish stuff for many years. So why be surprised or make a big stink if somebody else does it? Is it legal for them to use the funds for these purposes? Free speech is fine, but does it have to be financed when it promotes hate speech?

This would be laughably stupid if it wasn’t so real and if people weren’t being educated by these haters.

Soon, in a city near my part of the country, an apologist for the current Iran regime is coming to give a talk to a student organization that I believe is affiliated with the largest Muslim organization on a large nearby campus (organization is funded by Saudi money). Unlike your spittling speaker, ours has a Ph.D. and an academic career in the sciences. In other words, it is not easy to dismiss him as an irrational kook. Well, except for the part where he says that the West shouldn’t be so surprised when the Iranian President denies the Holocaust happened. After all, says this learned academic, Jews and Zionists know that imams in the Arab world have been saying this kind of nasty anti-Jewish stuff for many years. So why be surprised or make a big stink if somebody else does it?

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