Comments on: Lucky Number Seven: New JTS Chancellor Appointed… http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/04/lucky-number-seven-new-jts-chancellor-appointed/ It's a Jewish Blog! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:17:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: esther http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/04/lucky-number-seven-new-jts-chancellor-appointed/#comment-208595 esther Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:33:10 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1992#comment-208595 As far as I know (and I used to work there), JTS has deans of its rabbinical school, but ordination is usually conferred by the chancellor. Perhaps that's because the chancellor's almost always been a rabbi, as well. Maybe they'll change it, now, but we'll see. Plus, it's worth noting that although the chancellor's the head of the movement, he still confers with the heads of the RA (Rabbinical Assembly, the Conservative organization of rabbis) and the United Synagogue (organization of Conservative synagogues) on movement-wide decisions. Like I said, should be very interesting. We'll see what happens... As far as I know (and I used to work there), JTS has deans of its rabbinical school, but ordination is usually conferred by the chancellor. Perhaps that’s because the chancellor’s almost always been a rabbi, as well. Maybe they’ll change it, now, but we’ll see. Plus, it’s worth noting that although the chancellor’s the head of the movement, he still confers with the heads of the RA (Rabbinical Assembly, the Conservative organization of rabbis) and the United Synagogue (organization of Conservative synagogues) on movement-wide decisions. Like I said, should be very interesting. We’ll see what happens…

]]> By: Rami http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/04/lucky-number-seven-new-jts-chancellor-appointed/#comment-208545 Rami Sat, 15 Apr 2006 20:54:32 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1992#comment-208545 Nathan: Richarg M. Joel is the president of The University (undergrad, grad, etc.) Rav Herschel Schecter is the Rosh Yeshiva of Reits, the Rabbinical school. So too, I would asume JTS would have a rabbi running the actual seminary wing, giving smicha etc. Nathan:
Richarg M. Joel is the president of The University (undergrad, grad, etc.) Rav Herschel Schecter is the Rosh Yeshiva of Reits, the Rabbinical school. So too, I would asume JTS would have a rabbi running the actual seminary wing, giving smicha etc.

]]> By: Tom Morrissey http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/04/lucky-number-seven-new-jts-chancellor-appointed/#comment-208091 Tom Morrissey Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:25:39 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1992#comment-208091 This is a bit off-topic, but for one institution's approach to the 'gay issue', check out "A Church Asunder," by Peter Boyer, in the current issue of New Yorker magazine. Engrossing, even if you have no dog in that fight. This is a bit off-topic, but for one institution’s approach to the ‘gay issue’, check out “A Church Asunder,” by Peter Boyer, in the current issue of New Yorker magazine. Engrossing, even if you have no dog in that fight.

]]> By: andrew http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/04/lucky-number-seven-new-jts-chancellor-appointed/#comment-207846 andrew Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:52:01 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1992#comment-207846 also leader of the C movement? isn't that...well, the head rabbis' jobs? i mean, just because he's head of the school doesn't mean that he's head of the world of C Judaism. ...and why isn't there more discussion on this, anyway? nobody cares about CJ anymore. le sigh. also leader of the C movement? isn’t that…well, the head rabbis’ jobs? i mean, just because he’s head of the school doesn’t mean that he’s head of the world of C Judaism.

…and why isn’t there more discussion on this, anyway? nobody cares about CJ anymore. le sigh.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/04/lucky-number-seven-new-jts-chancellor-appointed/#comment-207521 Nathan Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:04:26 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1992#comment-207521 <i>I am a bit concerned about the concept of the Conservative movement’s premier yeshiva not being headed by a rabbi.</i> Yeshiva University beat them to it; Richard M. Joel, the president of the university, isn't a rabbi either. I am a bit concerned about the concept of the Conservative movement’s premier yeshiva not being headed by a rabbi.

Yeshiva University beat them to it; Richard M. Joel, the president of the university, isn’t a rabbi either.

]]> By: taltman http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/04/lucky-number-seven-new-jts-chancellor-appointed/#comment-206993 taltman Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:53:12 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1992#comment-206993 Wait, he sings "Stairway"?! Wow, its almost hip to be a C Jew now! ;-) I am a bit concerned about the concept of the Conservative movement's premier yeshiva not being headed by a rabbi. Whither the concept of smikha being passed down from rabbi to disciple, in an unbroken chain from our origins to the future? On the other hand, I think his focus on the over-arching sociological / demographic challenges of American Jewry might be beneficial. It won't matter about a lot of these issues of halakha if there aren't any American Jews left to worry about it... Wait, he sings “Stairway”?! Wow, its almost hip to be a C Jew now! ;-)

I am a bit concerned about the concept of the Conservative movement’s premier yeshiva not being headed by a rabbi. Whither the concept of smikha being passed down from rabbi to disciple, in an unbroken chain from our origins to the future?

On the other hand, I think his focus on the over-arching sociological / demographic challenges of American Jewry might be beneficial. It won’t matter about a lot of these issues of halakha if there aren’t any American Jews left to worry about it…

]]> By: shmavis http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/04/lucky-number-seven-new-jts-chancellor-appointed/#comment-206882 shmavis Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:24:53 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1992#comment-206882 Cheerleader, fundraiser, JTS' lead player of risk on Shabbes. Enjoy 'yo crackas, yiddn! Cheerleader, fundraiser, JTS’ lead player of risk on Shabbes. Enjoy ‘yo crackas, yiddn!

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/04/lucky-number-seven-new-jts-chancellor-appointed/#comment-206483 themiddle Tue, 11 Apr 2006 00:47:14 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1992#comment-206483 <i>“The chancellor is the academic head of the institution, and from the viewpoint of having moral suasion and institutional power he is also the leader of the [Conservative] movement</i> “The chancellor is the academic head of the institution, and from the viewpoint of having moral suasion and institutional power he is also the leader of the [Conservative] movement

]]> By: andrew http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/04/lucky-number-seven-new-jts-chancellor-appointed/#comment-206481 andrew Tue, 11 Apr 2006 00:40:42 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1992#comment-206481 pardon my ignorance, but what is the Chancellor's job requirements? A Dean of sorts? Good luck to him, I should say that at least. Interesting that he's not a rabbi. Maybe this is C's time to be moving more towards a sociological Judaism? ...i doubt that, though. pardon my ignorance, but what is the Chancellor’s job requirements? A Dean of sorts? Good luck to him, I should say that at least. Interesting that he’s not a rabbi. Maybe this is C’s time to be moving more towards a sociological Judaism? …i doubt that, though.

]]> By: amechad http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/04/lucky-number-seven-new-jts-chancellor-appointed/#comment-206420 amechad Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:28:48 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1992#comment-206420 I wrote a bio for him on wikipedia, feel free to (properly) wikify -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Eisen -- though it's all based on the media reports. Supposedly in his younger days he hung out with Art Green and was a C basher (from the left-wing havura school). I'm concerned about him not being a halakhist/rabbi and on one hand his academic field is a plus (as he can make the needed sociological changes, or at least isn't blind to it as some other C leaders may be), an the other hand, it's also negative as it's not Talmud or History or something like that (and this coming from a social science student myself) for JTS. He's still a far lefty, it seems. I don't blame him but I think this is further proof that the C movement runs by sociological reality and not halakha. (I say with sadness as I grew up C and still identify intellectually with the C movement) I wrote a bio for him on wikipedia, feel free to (properly) wikify — en.wikipedia.o... — though it’s all based on the media reports.

Supposedly in his younger days he hung out with Art Green and was a C basher (from the left-wing havura school). I’m concerned about him not being a halakhist/rabbi and on one hand his academic field is a plus (as he can make the needed sociological changes, or at least isn’t blind to it as some other C leaders may be), an the other hand, it’s also negative as it’s not Talmud or History or something like that (and this coming from a social science student myself) for JTS.

He’s still a far lefty, it seems. I don’t blame him but I think this is further proof that the C movement runs by sociological reality and not halakha. (I say with sadness as I grew up C and still identify intellectually with the C movement)

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/04/lucky-number-seven-new-jts-chancellor-appointed/#comment-206418 themiddle Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:21:27 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=1992#comment-206418 Thanks for posting this, I haven't had a chance to do it. here's a NY Times article about <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Jewish-Seminary.html?_r=1&oref=slogin">Eisen and the position</a>. Interesting and brave selection from everything I've read. Poor guy kinda won the prize and in this case the prize is a big set of headaches. Thanks for posting this, I haven’t had a chance to do it. here’s a NY Times article about Eisen and the position.

Interesting and brave selection from everything I’ve read. Poor guy kinda won the prize and in this case the prize is a big set of headaches.

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