If your thesis is correct, they would compromise by now, don’t you think? I mean, in 2000, they were offered a state with all of Gaza and 90% of the West Bank in the first round and 97.5% in the second round at Taba. Do a people broken in spirit reject such offers? Do a dehumanised people get such offers?

You still haven’t addressed my simple point which is that if you are right, then wherever else we have suicide bombings in the world, the reasons are the same. Right? So the Sri Lankans are broken in spirit, are occupied and dehumanised. So must be the Iraqis. So must be all those Al Qaeda folks who blow up subways in Madrid and London (not a single Palestinian in either attack although there were a bunch of Moroccans).

Do you see why your thesis holds no water? It’s not that I fail to understand your deep need to explain away these inhuman acts, or that I fail to understand your desire to blame the Israelis and by making the Israelis “understand” that somehow you hope they’ll change their approach and the bombings will end. I understand what you’re getting at. It’s just that you are wrong. There is no valid reason or justification for these attacks, and the only “compromise” that will mollify those responsible is the “compromise” Israel cannot give, namely the right of Israelis to self determination in their current and historic homeland.

just a thot: is it ok to negatively label people and say, hey its cool, since it was sarcastic and facetious?

themiddle: I kinda got another reading on the whole blow yourself up gameplan of the palestinians

might it be becos they are so broken in mind/spirit/heart/etc by the occupation that they not know any other way to resist an occupation that is essentially dehumanising a whole groups of people?

just a thot mate

As for my alleged racism and stereotyping, you’re reading more into my sarcastic and facetious retort than was intended. I have no problem admitting that I often smell bad too (I’m sure several people who know me personally will be only too pleased to confirm that). Suicide bombers and their supporters/enablers may or may not actually smell, but their murderous self-righteousness certainly stinks.

As for the smell, what’s with the accusation of racism and stereotyping? You mean that it’s not okay to call murderous suicide bombers names? Maybe he was referring to the putrid smell of their burnt flesh. The smell of death.

but er, what does suicide bombings in other places got to do with the islareali-palestinian situation?
can you explain on that?

or even, WHY DO THESE PEOPLE BLOWING THEMSELVES UP? – any reason besides the oft quoted 72 virgins stuff?

hey dickhead ck, whats with the racism and stereotyping,

if arabs are smelly? do the rest smell sweet?
what kinda crap is that

oh yeah, you are incapable of thought processes, it hurts doesnt it, I shoulda known, my bad, chump

You realize of course that all the Muslims physically located between Jerusalema and Mecca have to pray in the direction of Mecca, thereby turning their backs on Jerusalem. So they do.

As for suicide bombers, try to justify them all you want but we have them in Iraq, in Sri Lanka, New York, Madrid, London as well as discos with Westerners in resorts far away from the Middle East. Unfortunately, since these are different places and different environments, the common link has little to do with Israel or the conflict with the Arabs there.

Care to offer a reason? Perhaps you can tell us the common link.

Thanks, babe.

but i am pretty sure you asked yourself why folks kill themselves as suicide bombers and all the other tragedies going on there.

so think about it hon

but did you find out why they rejectin it?

any reasons?

100% of Gaza
90% (CD) – 97.5% (Taba) of West Bank
$10-$30 billion in reparations
Land swap for land Israel keeps (Taba, Clinton initiative)
Control over east Jerusalem (autonomous at CD; sovereignty at Taba)
Sovereignty over Temple Mount/Haram al Sharif (shared at CD, shared at Taba with even greater control to Palestinians)
International port and airport (CD and Taba)

Really, just read what was on the table and then go cry because instead of negotiating, the Palestinians refused to negotiate and started a war. In fact, they used to say they would lay down their arms and struggle if they could get a state. Then they were offered a state and instead of negotiating claimed what was offered was insufficient. Then they started a war and began to complain about occupation when the Israeli soldiers returned to areas they had already vacated. Why did they move back in? How else could they defend against this army that targets civilians?

Seems to me there’s a lot “on the table” to encourage a people who wanted peace to make peace.