Comments on: Aw Man…

By: celtic blood

celtic blood — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:41:53 +0000

Edit by TM:

I thought about keeping your comment up and then I realized it had nothing to do with this conversation. Let us know when you have something worthwhile to say, Mr. Upyours.

By: S. T.

S. T. — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:23:45 +0000

I didn’t see anyone passing out any literture nor did they walk as one large group, but rather wandered around in small groups. There may have been something on the front of the shirts: I only looked at the backs and didn’t try talking to any of them. The police arrived only around 10:30 (I called the police at 10:25 so there were probably already on the way before I called).
I don’t believe that they provoked anyone. I do believe that it doesn’t take much for the haredim to turn into a mob and act like cossacks. Pretty sad. I am disappointed at Arutz 7 if that is what they wrote. I am disappointed at the haredim because missionaries can’t really harm you if you are strong in your own belief’s.

Shabbat Shalom

By: Simone

Simone — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:35:26 +0000

Though my Yoni liss has been known to assault old women on occasion. like when they cut him in line…

By: Simone

Simone — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:34:14 +0000

Ha! it’s true. Jonathan Lis who writes for Ha’aretz is NOT yoni lisS my husband who no longer works in journalism. The confusion might come in handy should he ever want to work in journalism again though…

By: Ben-David

Ben-David — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:59:21 +0000

I have read the accounts and I’m STILL not sure that there was missionary activity – the only connection is the reports of previous missionizing by similarly dressed people in the A7 writeup.

So I feel kinda manipulated – Initially the media reports (and this post) present this as “Christian supporters of Israel getting mistaken for missionaries”.

But in fact this could be a “straw that broke the camel’s back” reaction to cumulative “witnessing” activity in Jerusalem.

And I still don’t feel I know what really happened…

By: laya

laya — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:56:00 +0000

no no no ck, you’ve got it all wrong. There’s actually ANOTHER Jonathan Lis running around these parts who is NOT married to the lovely Simone. Beware the confusion.

Also, Yoni is Liss not Lis.

By: Puirm Hero

Puirm Hero — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:25:49 +0000

OK… I thought his name was familiar. Simone is awesome. Her whole family is awesome for that matter. I never actually met Jonathan while I was in Israel. But from what I understand he’s a great guy. Funny that as a result I end up putting more stock into a Haaretz article. (I’m usually not a fan…)

Though I guess the one really big disagreement is what did the shirts say. All accounts have it differently. Perhaps there was more then one shirt design? Maybe the shirts said different things on different sides, or said more then one statement? But reports all have their own take:

“wearing shirts emblazoned with messages of love to the Jewish people”

“clothing bearing the slogan ‘Your God is our God.’”

“wearing orange shirts”… “To my surprise the Hebrew quoted Ruth’s famous statement about “your people, my people.”

“wearing orange T-shirts with the words “Love your neighbor as yourself” printed across them.”

Oh well… any place happen to have a picture?

By: ck

ck — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:12:18 +0000

Purim Hero: The Haaretz article was written by Jonathan Lis, a Jerusalem based writer. I know this man. His heart is black as the night and he can’t be trusted at all. He regularly assaults old ladies for sport, kicks puppies and frigtens small children by making horrific faces at them.

Kidding! Yonni is the husband of Mother to be Simonee who comments here on occasion.

By: themiddle

themiddle — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:08:06 +0000

One should graciously and pleasantly tell them, “We’re sorry, but we’re just not interested. Have a nice day, and please don’t wear short sleeved shirts in our neighborhood as it embarrasses us.”

By: bartholomew fraunhofer

bartholomew fraunhofer — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:26:07 +0000

interesting how all three news sources told the truth, just the wording was different.

violence is unacceptable, i guess; but how should one deal with missionaries invading ones proudly religious neighborhood?

By: Puirm Hero

Puirm Hero — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:10:20 +0000

Another news source, another story…

By Jonathan Lis, Haaretz Correspondent

A group of 50 pro-Israel Christian tourists came under attack Wednesday from some 100 residents of the ultra-Orthodox neighborhood of Mea She’arim in Jerusalem.

Three of the tourists and a police officer were wounded in the attack. They received treatment at the scene.

The tourists arrived at Mea She’arim wearing orange T-shirts with the words “Love your neighbor as yourself” printed across them.

As they neared one of the squares, the local residents apparently identified them as Christians and began to hit them.

By: Nathan Tableman

Nathan Tableman — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:23:09 +0000

We owe them much much more than this. I hope ever day they are all punished for their complete perversion of the word of G-d. If only Jews and Arabs could get along long enough to pay back the 15 or so million deaths we owe them from over the years.

By: HaIsh HaGadol

HaIsh HaGadol — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:34:39 +0000

I read both articles… can’t find anything else on it yet.
I’m curious, who got it wrong?

By: Puirm Hero

Puirm Hero — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:13:56 +0000

And who is the “real” media? It’s not like the AP our Routers gets stories right either.

By: elf

elf — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:32:18 +0000

This was interesting. I thought that you’d be pointing out that one of the news sources got the story wrong. In fact, they both left out important details — albeit different ones — for reasons that are obvious when you consider their respective agendas. Kind of sad.

I guess if we want news from Israel, we’ll have to rely on the real media…