Comments on: birthright Blogging http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/ It's a Jewish Blog! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:17:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jcgi http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/#comment-289857 jcgi Thu, 06 Jul 2006 18:11:29 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2295#comment-289857 Does anyone know if/how to rent a Blackberry during a trip in Israel? Does anyone know if/how to rent a Blackberry during a trip in Israel?

]]> By: jcgi http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/#comment-289199 jcgi Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:05:40 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2295#comment-289199 There are 2 companies - <b>Teva Naot</b> is at Kibbutz Naot Mordechai in the Upper Galilee, whereas <b>Teva</b> sandals are American made. <a href="http://www.drive-israel.com" rel="nofollow">Drive-Israel Routes for car trips in Israel</a> There are 2 companies – Teva Naot is at Kibbutz Naot Mordechai in the Upper Galilee, whereas Teva sandals are American made.

Drive-Israel Routes for car trips in Israel

]]> By: Shy Guy http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/#comment-273157 Shy Guy Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:43:29 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2295#comment-273157 <blockquote><i>Ani choshev sheh Teva kvar lo kayam? Ha Sandalim hachi tovim achshav hem “Naot”?</i></blockquote> They are one and the same: <a href="http://www.teva-naot.co.il/" rel="nofollow">Teva Naot</a> Wearing mine as I type! :)

Ani choshev sheh Teva kvar lo kayam? Ha Sandalim hachi tovim achshav hem “Naot”?

They are one and the same:

Teva Naot

Wearing mine as I type! :)

]]> By: Jewish Mother http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/#comment-273146 Jewish Mother Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:33:00 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2295#comment-273146 birthright Israel has to use the lower case b because of a compromise with another group that had the word "birthright" in its name, and was first. bri HAS to use the lower case b. They don't necessarily like to. It's a legal thing, a copyright thing. You are so right about Shabbat. It's core. birthright Israel has to use the lower case b because of a compromise with another group that had the word “birthright” in its name, and was first. bri HAS to use the lower case b. They don’t necessarily like to. It’s a legal thing, a copyright thing.

You are so right about Shabbat. It’s core.

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/#comment-273065 themiddle Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:53:15 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2295#comment-273065 Have a good, safe and productive trip, Esther. Have a good, safe and productive trip, Esther.

]]> By: Jobber http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/#comment-272994 Jobber Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:47:33 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2295#comment-272994 Ani choshev sheh Teva kvar lo kayam? Ha Sandalim hachi tovim achshav hem "Naot"? She yihiyeh lach, tissah vi tiyul naim vitov, maleh chavayot vi bisurroat tovot Ani choshev sheh Teva kvar lo kayam? Ha Sandalim hachi tovim achshav hem “Naot”?

She yihiyeh lach, tissah vi tiyul naim vitov, maleh chavayot vi bisurroat tovot

]]> By: Daphna http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/#comment-272967 Daphna Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:12:38 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2295#comment-272967 Ester, CK has my contact info--would love to meet up. Actually, I will text him with contact info, just to be on the safe side. Ester, CK has my contact info–would love to meet up. Actually, I will text him with contact info, just to be on the safe side.

]]> By: esther http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/#comment-272938 esther Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:34:02 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2295#comment-272938 Daphna, you won't get any arguments from me, Shabbat in Jerusalem is the way to go, especially when you only have ten days. Daphna, I'll be extending my trip, so if you wanna meet up, lemme know... Daphna, you won’t get any arguments from me, Shabbat in Jerusalem is the way to go, especially when you only have ten days.

Daphna, I’ll be extending my trip, so if you wanna meet up, lemme know…

]]> By: Daphna http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/#comment-272692 Daphna Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:14:37 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2295#comment-272692 CK-now that sounds more like it! And Sunday, come visit my beach! Harry-the point is not to have an "Israeli" experience, but rather a Jewish one. Besides, a lot of those secular Israelis are going home every last Erev Shishi to do dinner with the family--they are doing some Shabbat whether they know it or not! CK-now that sounds more like it! And Sunday, come visit my beach!

Harry-the point is not to have an “Israeli” experience, but rather a Jewish one. Besides, a lot of those secular Israelis are going home every last Erev Shishi to do dinner with the family–they are doing some Shabbat whether they know it or not!

]]> By: ck http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/#comment-272652 ck Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:13:08 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2295#comment-272652 Our Oranim Shabbat experience involved candle lighting on a roof in the old city and then kabbalat shabbat at the Kotel. For shabbat lunch we did home hospitality with young religious families in Jerusalem. It may not have been a typically Israeli shabbat as Harry pointed out, but even the surly, cynical Israeli soldiers were touched by the experience. The trip is really all about getting people in touch with their Jewish roots and in that respect, a meaningful shabbat experience in Jerusalem is where it's at - please leave your sectarian strife at the doorstep, thank you. Our Oranim Shabbat experience involved candle lighting on a roof in the old city and then kabbalat shabbat at the Kotel. For shabbat lunch we did home hospitality with young religious families in Jerusalem. It may not have been a typically Israeli shabbat as Harry pointed out, but even the surly, cynical Israeli soldiers were touched by the experience. The trip is really all about getting people in touch with their Jewish roots and in that respect, a meaningful shabbat experience in Jerusalem is where it’s at – please leave your sectarian strife at the doorstep, thank you.

]]> By: Harry http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/#comment-272604 Harry Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:26:39 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2295#comment-272604 But what IS "Shabbat in proper" for your average Israeli? Shabbat in the Old City? Not the Israelis I know. But what IS “Shabbat in proper” for your average Israeli? Shabbat in the Old City? Not the Israelis I know.

]]> By: Daphna http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/06/birthright-blogging/#comment-272559 Daphna Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:49:04 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2295#comment-272559 Just had a wierd-ish Oranim experience the other day. I was with a good friend of mine who is, incidentally, an experienced tour guide. We were walking back from synagogue (in Tel Aviv) and passed a large group coming out of a Ben Yehuda hotel. More or less the conversation following the spotting: Friend: Birthright group. Me: Really? How do you know? Friend goes on to explain--demographics, level of hotel, huge size of group, etc. Friend: It is sad--they have 10 days in Israel and their one Shabbat-for a lot of them the only Shabbat experience they may ever have- they spend on the beach in Tel Aviv as opposed to Jerusalem. Me: You are right, why do they do that? Friend: It is Oranim. (She went on to give a bit of background which I do not remember). And people wonder why younger Jews are so disconnected, even after the Birthright trip. I have to admit, I was sceptical--I found it hard to believe that Birthright would condone this. But later on that afternoon, while we were sitting on the beach (yes, on the beach, but I am already committed enough to live in Israel), I hear an announcement over the ramkol: "Oranim--it is AFTER 4:30". So what IS the point of the Birthright trips? Why are donors and the Israeli government donating gazillions of dollars to fund it? To give Jews a free lark at the beach so the kiddies will remember the cool vacation (which they could have on their own dime in Mexico-lots of beaches and historical stuff there) or to give them a free immersion in their history, homeland, religion and culture so that said kiddies might actually be fired up enough to be involved when vacation is over? Now as much as I love Tel Aviv and its beaches, and as happy as I am to no longer live in J'lem, the last time I checked, the Hof Gordon was open on Sundays as well. Reform, Orthodox, Conservative or whatever...if you want to really do Shabbat in proper "stir up the Jewish part of you" style--the place to be is Jerusalem. CK, Laya--pleeeeeze tell me that your Oranim Birthright trip does Shabbat some justice! Just had a wierd-ish Oranim experience the other day. I was with a good friend of mine who is, incidentally, an experienced tour guide. We were walking back from synagogue (in Tel Aviv) and passed a large group coming out of a Ben Yehuda hotel.

More or less the conversation following the spotting:
Friend: Birthright group.
Me: Really? How do you know?
Friend goes on to explain–demographics, level of hotel, huge size of group, etc.
Friend: It is sad–they have 10 days in Israel and their one Shabbat-for a lot of them the only Shabbat experience they may ever have- they spend on the beach in Tel Aviv as opposed to Jerusalem.
Me: You are right, why do they do that?
Friend: It is Oranim. (She went on to give a bit of background which I do not remember). And people wonder why younger Jews are so disconnected, even after the Birthright trip.

I have to admit, I was sceptical–I found it hard to believe that Birthright would condone this. But later on that afternoon, while we were sitting on the beach (yes, on the beach, but I am already committed enough to live in Israel), I hear an announcement over the ramkol:

“Oranim–it is AFTER 4:30″.

So what IS the point of the Birthright trips? Why are donors and the Israeli government donating gazillions of dollars to fund it? To give Jews a free lark at the beach so the kiddies will remember the cool vacation (which they could have on their own dime in Mexico-lots of beaches and historical stuff there) or to give them a free immersion in their history, homeland, religion and culture so that said kiddies might actually be fired up enough to be involved when vacation is over? Now as much as I love Tel Aviv and its beaches, and as happy as I am to no longer live in J’lem, the last time I checked, the Hof Gordon was open on Sundays as well. Reform, Orthodox, Conservative or whatever…if you want to really do Shabbat in proper “stir up the Jewish part of you” style–the place to be is Jerusalem.

CK, Laya–pleeeeeze tell me that your Oranim Birthright trip does Shabbat some justice!

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