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		<title>By: KSF</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-314985</link>
		<dc:creator>KSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hezbollah doesn&#039;t want to die.  If they did, they&#039;d come out and fight like real men, instead of hiding behind civilian women and children.</description>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-313826</link>
		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found this &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/5236862.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;story&lt;/a&gt;; for Blair is begining to make sense again. This is a new kind of war, and Israel is at the frontline of it. I hope it prevails because the alternative is that we&#039;ll all become hostage to extremists. It&#039;s not going to be easy, but it&#039;s victory is imperative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found this <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/5236862.stm" rel="nofollow">story</a>; for Blair is begining to make sense again. This is a new kind of war, and Israel is at the frontline of it. I hope it prevails because the alternative is that we&#8217;ll all become hostage to extremists. It&#8217;s not going to be easy, but it&#8217;s victory is imperative.</p>
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		<title>By: Peg</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-311323</link>
		<dc:creator>Peg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that it was Israel that underestimated Hezbollah. I think they underestimated the unity that should of formed. The UN held more accountable and things should of been into action before Israel had to do this. US was talking about Iran and the threats were esculating into as a matter of fact! I for sure thought we would all be on board together on this and make it work. Like negotiations should of been happening and the President of Lebanon should have made some kind of promise, as a beginning to immediatly rid Hezbollah in his country. We should of dropped leaflets to them so they could of got out but all so show them somehow they are being manipulated. They only see on tv what they want them to believe and it is working! It should not stop us from attacking Iran! Looked like Chavez and Amajean where about to make out, damn! I&#039;m not jewish but it doesn&#039;t take a jew to see evil Lance!! Nasrallah, figures now, to know his son is buried in that cemetary in Israel, and he is still alive. He must feel quilty! If he is hiding in Iran that is good enough to bomb the sob!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that it was Israel that underestimated Hezbollah. I think they underestimated the unity that should of formed. The UN held more accountable and things should of been into action before Israel had to do this. US was talking about Iran and the threats were esculating into as a matter of fact! I for sure thought we would all be on board together on this and make it work. Like negotiations should of been happening and the President of Lebanon should have made some kind of promise, as a beginning to immediatly rid Hezbollah in his country. We should of dropped leaflets to them so they could of got out but all so show them somehow they are being manipulated. They only see on tv what they want them to believe and it is working! It should not stop us from attacking Iran! Looked like Chavez and Amajean where about to make out, damn! I&#8217;m not jewish but it doesn&#8217;t take a jew to see evil Lance!! Nasrallah, figures now, to know his son is buried in that cemetary in Israel, and he is still alive. He must feel quilty! If he is hiding in Iran that is good enough to bomb the sob!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steves Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-310284</link>
		<dc:creator>Steves Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ali, sorry, those people are hostages. The world needs to be rid of this devil Shiite aixs, otherwise it is you they will be targeting.

You cannot let them take over Israel.

THey must be stopped now.

You are dealing with an enemy who wants to die, you must punish them.

This is no time for liberal pansying. Yes, Israeli lives are worth more, because the enemy started this. 

Your kind of thinking is dangerous and foolish. You must get over this averiah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ali, sorry, those people are hostages. The world needs to be rid of this devil Shiite aixs, otherwise it is you they will be targeting.</p>
<p>You cannot let them take over Israel.</p>
<p>THey must be stopped now.</p>
<p>You are dealing with an enemy who wants to die, you must punish them.</p>
<p>This is no time for liberal pansying. Yes, Israeli lives are worth more, because the enemy started this. </p>
<p>Your kind of thinking is dangerous and foolish. You must get over this averiah.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-309881</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish the IDF would stop fighting this war like a public relations stunt and start realizing that only by a display of overwhelming force -including the bombing of villages- somesort of quiet will be achieved.

An army should never ever sacrifice its own soldiers to minimize civilian casualties. 

The result of Israel&#039;s disproportionate weak response will be a future filled with katusha attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the IDF would stop fighting this war like a public relations stunt and start realizing that only by a display of overwhelming force -including the bombing of villages- somesort of quiet will be achieved.</p>
<p>An army should never ever sacrifice its own soldiers to minimize civilian casualties. </p>
<p>The result of Israel&#8217;s disproportionate weak response will be a future filled with katusha attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-309484</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lancethruster, are you having some difficulty getting through the Jew-sense (tm) technology?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lancethruster, are you having some difficulty getting through the Jew-sense &#8482; technology?</p>
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		<title>By: LanceThruster</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-309460</link>
		<dc:creator>LanceThruster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>themiddle - You&#039;ll never know what I read because I never learned how to so well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>themiddle &#8211; You&#8217;ll never know what I read because I never learned how to so well.</p>
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		<title>By: LanceThruster</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-309457</link>
		<dc:creator>LanceThruster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for proving my point, I&#039;m not good at points myself.</description>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-309456</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, now Lanceswallower / Goatthruster / Neo-Nazi, I hope you haven&#039;t been reading too much Walt &amp; Mearsheimer. 

Did anybody else hear Walt on NPR yesterday, by the way? They set it up so it was him against an Israeli scholar out of Brandeis and Walt was not contested on any of his assertions. 

Dear NPR, next time, there are about 2743 people out there who could actually debate Walt, in case you really want to know why he&#039;s wrong on so many issues that relate to this conflict and America&#039;s role in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, now Lanceswallower / Goatthruster / Neo-Nazi, I hope you haven&#8217;t been reading too much Walt &#038; Mearsheimer. </p>
<p>Did anybody else hear Walt on NPR yesterday, by the way? They set it up so it was him against an Israeli scholar out of Brandeis and Walt was not contested on any of his assertions. </p>
<p>Dear NPR, next time, there are about 2743 people out there who could actually debate Walt, in case you really want to know why he&#8217;s wrong on so many issues that relate to this conflict and America&#8217;s role in it.</p>
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		<title>By: LanceSwallower</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-309423</link>
		<dc:creator>LanceSwallower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jewsih Mother - false dichotomy pretending that the choices are a magical chocolate factory or a whimsical North Pole workshop. The only reason the choices have become so polarized is because of the Boogeymen and their propaganda. Even at the childish level of &quot;goatthruster&quot; and changing the text of my posts shows that the Zionist agenda cannot win when honesty is involved. Facts are like Russian armies to Nazis.

YOU have created a world where Snuffleupagus and the Care Bears can be considered heroes for standing up to the Wicked Witch of the West! This thrice-convicted pedophile says godspeed to them in their righteous quest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jewsih Mother &#8211; false dichotomy pretending that the choices are a magical chocolate factory or a whimsical North Pole workshop. The only reason the choices have become so polarized is because of the Boogeymen and their propaganda. Even at the childish level of &#8220;goatthruster&#8221; and changing the text of my posts shows that the Zionist agenda cannot win when honesty is involved. Facts are like Russian armies to Nazis.</p>
<p>YOU have created a world where Snuffleupagus and the Care Bears can be considered heroes for standing up to the Wicked Witch of the West! This thrice-convicted pedophile says godspeed to them in their righteous quest.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewish Mother</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-309391</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewish Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is war and there is peace. War has nothing at all to do with valuing people&#039;s lives who are on the other side. It is not considered nice to be mean to people who are thoroughly disarmed and your prisoner. However, until they are thoroughly disarmed or your prisoner, you are only supposed to not TRY to hurt civilians on purpose. No Israeli ever has ON-PURPOSE, TARGETED a civilian. They have killed plenty of civilians. But it was not what they were trying to do, and they were prosecuting a war. They seem to be leafleting and actually telephoning civilians to try to get them to leave. There is so much information around about the other side shooting from among civilians, using them for cover, that is not worth citing or posting links. 

Politicians - and other people - are allowed to change their views when it hits the fan. That has a way of affecting people&#039;s views, depending. That is OK.

We need unity not carping.

Neo Nazi, don&#039;t worry so much. There are plenty of places live a full Muslim life, and Jordan is 70% Palestinian as we speak. I assume you are a US patriot? I am. This is about ideas not ethnicity. 

I also, like you, wish life were not so painful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is war and there is peace. War has nothing at all to do with valuing people&#8217;s lives who are on the other side. It is not considered nice to be mean to people who are thoroughly disarmed and your prisoner. However, until they are thoroughly disarmed or your prisoner, you are only supposed to not TRY to hurt civilians on purpose. No Israeli ever has ON-PURPOSE, TARGETED a civilian. They have killed plenty of civilians. But it was not what they were trying to do, and they were prosecuting a war. They seem to be leafleting and actually telephoning civilians to try to get them to leave. There is so much information around about the other side shooting from among civilians, using them for cover, that is not worth citing or posting links. </p>
<p>Politicians &#8211; and other people &#8211; are allowed to change their views when it hits the fan. That has a way of affecting people&#8217;s views, depending. That is OK.</p>
<p>We need unity not carping.</p>
<p>Neo Nazi, don&#8217;t worry so much. There are plenty of places live a full Muslim life, and Jordan is 70% Palestinian as we speak. I assume you are a US patriot? I am. This is about ideas not ethnicity. </p>
<p>I also, like you, wish life were not so painful.</p>
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		<title>By: ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Lebanon, like in Jenin, the Israelis suffered fewer military casualties when they used methods that were likely to cause more civilian deaths, like bulldozing neighboods and extensive bombing campaigns. I wonder though, about the ethics of this trade and the mandate to protect civilian life as much as possible. Many say that the civilians are gone now from S. Lebanon, but there are a lot of people who even when warned about impending attacks are unable to leave their homes for various reasons. Illness, family situations, the roads already having been blown up, fear, etc. Obviously it is better to displace people than kill them, but shouldn&#039;t we be worried about displacing them too?

It seems that Israeli soldiers&#039; lives are being valued more than Lebanese civilian lives. Of course some civilian casualties are unavoidable, but if they could be avoided by putting more troops on the ground rather than bombs in the air, we&#039;re not talking about the inevitable, we&#039;re talking about priorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Lebanon, like in Jenin, the Israelis suffered fewer military casualties when they used methods that were likely to cause more civilian deaths, like bulldozing neighboods and extensive bombing campaigns. I wonder though, about the ethics of this trade and the mandate to protect civilian life as much as possible. Many say that the civilians are gone now from S. Lebanon, but there are a lot of people who even when warned about impending attacks are unable to leave their homes for various reasons. Illness, family situations, the roads already having been blown up, fear, etc. Obviously it is better to displace people than kill them, but shouldn&#8217;t we be worried about displacing them too?</p>
<p>It seems that Israeli soldiers&#8217; lives are being valued more than Lebanese civilian lives. Of course some civilian casualties are unavoidable, but if they could be avoided by putting more troops on the ground rather than bombs in the air, we&#8217;re not talking about the inevitable, we&#8217;re talking about priorities.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-309368</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We deleted a comment? Did it appear on the front page? Sometimes things go into the spam filter and unfortunately while I&#039;d like to say that we are perfect, it does happen that we might erase a real post in there by accident sometimes. Since you are a &quot;Neo-Nazi&quot; I have a feeling our filter&#039;s unique Jew-sense (TM) technology probably caught your comment and flushed it down the toilet where it belongs. How ironic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We deleted a comment? Did it appear on the front page? Sometimes things go into the spam filter and unfortunately while I&#8217;d like to say that we are perfect, it does happen that we might erase a real post in there by accident sometimes. Since you are a &#8220;Neo-Nazi&#8221; I have a feeling our filter&#8217;s unique Jew-sense (TM) technology probably caught your comment and flushed it down the toilet where it belongs. How ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: ALEXBMN</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALEXBMN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn straight biatch.Tomorrow you get a full frontal lobotomy, courtesy of ZOG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn straight biatch.Tomorrow you get a full frontal lobotomy, courtesy of ZOG.</p>
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		<title>By: GoatThruster</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoatThruster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As my comment to alexbmn was deleted, I can only observe (from here and other pro-Zionist sites) that a crucial element of the Zionist Brave New World is the total control of information and elimination of any dissenting opinion no matter how innocuous. Which is really somewhat of an ironic comment, as I am a Neo-Nazi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As my comment to alexbmn was deleted, I can only observe (from here and other pro-Zionist sites) that a crucial element of the Zionist Brave New World is the total control of information and elimination of any dissenting opinion no matter how innocuous. Which is really somewhat of an ironic comment, as I am a Neo-Nazi.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/07/this-lousy-war-2/#comment-309286</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, I live in the US and am not in any army.

Second, the Cabinet called up three reserves divisions today. Oddly, they didn&#039;t call me first to inquire about my opinion. Maybe they read Jewlicious - they should! - but chances are they did this on their own based on the information they have at their disposal which I suspect is slightly more voluminous than the information you and I possess about the situation.

Third, the economic impact of having reserves in place and widening the attack on Hizbullah - something, which as I quote above, Golani and Paratrooper commanders are demanding - will be mitigated by the impact of shortening the war. Don&#039;t forget that Israel&#039;s northern economy is suffering.

Fourth, Syria is on war footing and has been on war footing for days. It will take a single bad breakfast for Assad OR the appearance of weakness and unpreparedness by Israel to have Syria enter the fray. I don&#039;t know whether you&#039;ve read about 1973, but Israel wasn&#039;t prepared and the 2-3 days it took to get the reserves into the field in the Golan &lt;em&gt;almost&lt;/em&gt; cost Israel the war...and the state. The loss of Israeli lives in having given the Syrians this advantage in &#039;73 was significant by any measure and far greater than what we have seen in Lebanon thus far or actually in all those years Israel was in Lebanon. We do not want another &#039;73 on our hands.

Fifth, your escalation scenario is correct overall from my point of view, but your point #3 is far too brief and misses the reason for the escalation which was, apparently, poor intelligence. The Israelis didn&#039;t seem to anticipate the strength of the Hizbullah resistance, all of its locations, its type, their overall rocket launching capabilities or their missile capability. These guys shot an anti-ship missile at an Israeli warship that actually had its defense systems off because they had no clue that such a missile was in the possession of Hizbullah. I&#039;m not saying, nor do I believe, that Israeli intelligence failed altogether, it is clear they have significant intelligence on their enemy. But it seems they have missed some crucial information. The problem is that once you realize that only some of your intelligence is correct but there are also gaps, you wonder what those gaps might be since they represent the most significant source of danger to your forces. 

There apparently was also a flaw in the transmission of intelligence to the commanders in the front lines. According to reports in the media - which doesn&#039;t mean the info is true - intelligence existed about Maroun al-Ras but was to be released only in real time because of its sensitive nature. It seems it didn&#039;t make it into the hands of forces before they went into that village and positions. As I recall 4 soldiers were killed in that battle (another was killed yesterday although the IDF now controls the area). This failure is reminiscent of the Kerem Shalom failure where intelligence existed and in that case actually given to the IDF, but had been acted upon improperly or not at all. That ended up causing the deaths of two soldiers and the kidnapping of one. There was a commission of inquiry about that event and perhaps there hasn&#039;t been time to implement its recommendations, but these mistakes cost lives and they are happening under Halutz&#039;s watch. 

Sixth, this is most definitely an existential war. Failure in this war will cost Israel dearly in future wars and attacks. Hizbullah is more than just Hizbullah, it is the front line of two states that seek to do nothing less than destroy Israel. Hizbullah is their laboratory for testing Israel, its resources, its weaknesses and strengths, its ability to do combat and its desire to win. If Israel receives a failing grade on any of these, it will be attacked by larger forces because they will see weakness. Even if Israel doesn&#039;t show weakness, Hizbullah remains a laboratory that can provide valuable information about how to fight Israel. This is why they need to be crushed. 

But don&#039;t just listen to me on this, check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/743210.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ha&#039;aretz&#039;s editorial today&lt;/a&gt;. This is Ha&#039;aretz, not Arutz Sheva, and not some egalitarian, Zionist, Suburban Jew who lives in the US. 

I don&#039;t think Ha&#039;aretz wants wider conflict or a deepening war. &lt;strong&gt;I know that I don&#039;t&lt;/strong&gt;. In fact, I wish Israel had run a much smaller campaign against Hizbullah after the killing and kidnapping of the soldiers a couple of weeks ago. But once you are in, you have to go in with the intention of delivering a crushing blow for reasons I mention above. we saw this in Jenin where soldiers lost lives because the IDF didn&#039;t want to damage buildings and wanted to fight with civility. They stopped losing soldiers when they started bulldozing the buildings in their path. And you know what else? They were vilified anyway by the international community. The 8 Golani soldiers who were killed yesterday were ambushed while doing urban door to door fighting. Perhaps a different approach and deeper forces in place would have saved those lives. Will more lives be lost with reserves in place and a stronger force arrayed against Hizbullah? I don&#039;t know, but I think the odds of winning quickly with fewer casualties will improve. I also think we don&#039;t have a choice. 

I&#039;ll leave you with the views of the editorial by this fine LEFT wing, dovish Israeli newspaper which has no qualms about criticizing Israel and its military regularly:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The army&#039;s fighting ranks are characterized by determination and even enthusiasm, but the higher command ranks and the politicians look as if they have been frozen in a huge ice cube - the trauma of the Lebanon War. The concern that they may be repeating that unfortunate adventure is paralyzing their steps to such an extent that they are themselves creating a new trauma, that of a home front helplessly being hit by Katyushas. 

Israel cannot allow itself to be drawn into a war of attrition, with mounting casualties both on the front and in the rear, that will end in a weak whisper of a draw - which is effectively a victory for Hezbollah. The public in Israel understands very well what Rice also understands: a hasty end to the military operations, without any gains, will result in a renewal of the fighting in a few weeks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, I live in the US and am not in any army.</p>
<p>Second, the Cabinet called up three reserves divisions today. Oddly, they didn&#8217;t call me first to inquire about my opinion. Maybe they read Jewlicious &#8211; they should! &#8211; but chances are they did this on their own based on the information they have at their disposal which I suspect is slightly more voluminous than the information you and I possess about the situation.</p>
<p>Third, the economic impact of having reserves in place and widening the attack on Hizbullah &#8211; something, which as I quote above, Golani and Paratrooper commanders are demanding &#8211; will be mitigated by the impact of shortening the war. Don&#8217;t forget that Israel&#8217;s northern economy is suffering.</p>
<p>Fourth, Syria is on war footing and has been on war footing for days. It will take a single bad breakfast for Assad OR the appearance of weakness and unpreparedness by Israel to have Syria enter the fray. I don&#8217;t know whether you&#8217;ve read about 1973, but Israel wasn&#8217;t prepared and the 2-3 days it took to get the reserves into the field in the Golan <em>almost</em> cost Israel the war&#8230;and the state. The loss of Israeli lives in having given the Syrians this advantage in &#8217;73 was significant by any measure and far greater than what we have seen in Lebanon thus far or actually in all those years Israel was in Lebanon. We do not want another &#8217;73 on our hands.</p>
<p>Fifth, your escalation scenario is correct overall from my point of view, but your point #3 is far too brief and misses the reason for the escalation which was, apparently, poor intelligence. The Israelis didn&#8217;t seem to anticipate the strength of the Hizbullah resistance, all of its locations, its type, their overall rocket launching capabilities or their missile capability. These guys shot an anti-ship missile at an Israeli warship that actually had its defense systems off because they had no clue that such a missile was in the possession of Hizbullah. I&#8217;m not saying, nor do I believe, that Israeli intelligence failed altogether, it is clear they have significant intelligence on their enemy. But it seems they have missed some crucial information. The problem is that once you realize that only some of your intelligence is correct but there are also gaps, you wonder what those gaps might be since they represent the most significant source of danger to your forces. </p>
<p>There apparently was also a flaw in the transmission of intelligence to the commanders in the front lines. According to reports in the media &#8211; which doesn&#8217;t mean the info is true &#8211; intelligence existed about Maroun al-Ras but was to be released only in real time because of its sensitive nature. It seems it didn&#8217;t make it into the hands of forces before they went into that village and positions. As I recall 4 soldiers were killed in that battle (another was killed yesterday although the IDF now controls the area). This failure is reminiscent of the Kerem Shalom failure where intelligence existed and in that case actually given to the IDF, but had been acted upon improperly or not at all. That ended up causing the deaths of two soldiers and the kidnapping of one. There was a commission of inquiry about that event and perhaps there hasn&#8217;t been time to implement its recommendations, but these mistakes cost lives and they are happening under Halutz&#8217;s watch. </p>
<p>Sixth, this is most definitely an existential war. Failure in this war will cost Israel dearly in future wars and attacks. Hizbullah is more than just Hizbullah, it is the front line of two states that seek to do nothing less than destroy Israel. Hizbullah is their laboratory for testing Israel, its resources, its weaknesses and strengths, its ability to do combat and its desire to win. If Israel receives a failing grade on any of these, it will be attacked by larger forces because they will see weakness. Even if Israel doesn&#8217;t show weakness, Hizbullah remains a laboratory that can provide valuable information about how to fight Israel. This is why they need to be crushed. </p>
<p>But don&#8217;t just listen to me on this, check out <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/743210.html" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Ha&#8217;aretz&#8217;s editorial today</a>. This is Ha&#8217;aretz, not Arutz Sheva, and not some egalitarian, Zionist, Suburban Jew who lives in the US. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Ha&#8217;aretz wants wider conflict or a deepening war. <strong>I know that I don&#8217;t</strong>. In fact, I wish Israel had run a much smaller campaign against Hizbullah after the killing and kidnapping of the soldiers a couple of weeks ago. But once you are in, you have to go in with the intention of delivering a crushing blow for reasons I mention above. we saw this in Jenin where soldiers lost lives because the IDF didn&#8217;t want to damage buildings and wanted to fight with civility. They stopped losing soldiers when they started bulldozing the buildings in their path. And you know what else? They were vilified anyway by the international community. The 8 Golani soldiers who were killed yesterday were ambushed while doing urban door to door fighting. Perhaps a different approach and deeper forces in place would have saved those lives. Will more lives be lost with reserves in place and a stronger force arrayed against Hizbullah? I don&#8217;t know, but I think the odds of winning quickly with fewer casualties will improve. I also think we don&#8217;t have a choice. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave you with the views of the editorial by this fine LEFT wing, dovish Israeli newspaper which has no qualms about criticizing Israel and its military regularly:</p>
<blockquote><p>The army&#8217;s fighting ranks are characterized by determination and even enthusiasm, but the higher command ranks and the politicians look as if they have been frozen in a huge ice cube &#8211; the trauma of the Lebanon War. The concern that they may be repeating that unfortunate adventure is paralyzing their steps to such an extent that they are themselves creating a new trauma, that of a home front helplessly being hit by Katyushas. </p>
<p>Israel cannot allow itself to be drawn into a war of attrition, with mounting casualties both on the front and in the rear, that will end in a weak whisper of a draw &#8211; which is effectively a victory for Hezbollah. The public in Israel understands very well what Rice also understands: a hasty end to the military operations, without any gains, will result in a renewal of the fighting in a few weeks.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Israelis are making a major mistake, in not flattening that dopey bin village how you call it?

I have seen such posts on YNET all day long.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Israelis are making a major mistake, in not flattening that dopey bin village how you call it?</p>
<p>I have seen such posts on YNET all day long.</p>
<p>Olmert is a deplorable PM.</p>
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		<dc:creator>ALEXBMN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh F you analysis is wrong on so many levels its just scary.So those reserves that crushed three countries in six days ,and turned the tide of war from the brink of defeat in 1973 are poorly trained? The most powerfull army in the middle east has not been able to reduce the numner of rockets being fired at it  bya small guerrila group after two weeks of action and Israel has taken considerable casualties on the ground while achieving nothing of strategic value and you say Hezbolla is being pushed into the corner.THe fact that Iran&#039;s proxy is going toe to toe with the army and surviving is ok with you ,I guess. Whatever was left of Israel deterrence has totally been thrown out the window.Its a scary day when Haaretz editorial tells the goverment to be more agressive and not be stuck in the bubble of 1982. Today the goverment has decided to disregard the army&#039;s (YES THE ARMY&#039;S NOT MINE)advice to broaden the ground operation and continue with the useless course of action. Israel has lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh F you analysis is wrong on so many levels its just scary.So those reserves that crushed three countries in six days ,and turned the tide of war from the brink of defeat in 1973 are poorly trained? The most powerfull army in the middle east has not been able to reduce the numner of rockets being fired at it  bya small guerrila group after two weeks of action and Israel has taken considerable casualties on the ground while achieving nothing of strategic value and you say Hezbolla is being pushed into the corner.THe fact that Iran&#8217;s proxy is going toe to toe with the army and surviving is ok with you ,I guess. Whatever was left of Israel deterrence has totally been thrown out the window.Its a scary day when Haaretz editorial tells the goverment to be more agressive and not be stuck in the bubble of 1982. Today the goverment has decided to disregard the army&#8217;s (YES THE ARMY&#8217;S NOT MINE)advice to broaden the ground operation and continue with the useless course of action. Israel has lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious what the error was, feel free to &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;mailto:jfrankel@pob.huji.ac.il&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;e-mail me&lt;/a&gt; about it, and not waste the blog&#039;s space.  Oh, and sorry to everyone about the poor grammar and typos.  This is what you get for posting before you pray.

&lt;em&gt;[Ed. note: for a former chanich, I will remove typos, but as for the grammar? I don&#039;t have that kind of time...EDK]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious what the error was, feel free to <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:jfrankel@pob.huji.ac.il" rel="nofollow">e-mail me</a> about it, and not waste the blog&#8217;s space.  Oh, and sorry to everyone about the poor grammar and typos.  This is what you get for posting before you pray.</p>
<p><em>[Ed. note: for a former chanich, I will remove typos, but as for the grammar? I don't have that kind of time...EDK]</em></p>
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		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh! Great analysis! But for one minor glaring error, so unimportant that it&#039;s not worth mentioning further, your analysis is pretty much right on the money. Todah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh! Great analysis! But for one minor glaring error, so unimportant that it&#8217;s not worth mentioning further, your analysis is pretty much right on the money. Todah.</p>
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