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		<title>By: ramon marcos</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-381244</link>
		<dc:creator>ramon marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 17:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparantly Katsav is about to be charged - but of course this comes mostly from the Arab press who are drooling over this and Maariv - and nothing in the J.Post so who really knows. On the other hand...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparantly Katsav is about to be charged &#8211; but of course this comes mostly from the Arab press who are drooling over this and Maariv &#8211; and nothing in the J.Post so who really knows. On the other hand&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CactusJack911</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-362457</link>
		<dc:creator>CactusJack911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

eh, I&#039;d give them the title &quot;Leader&quot; but definitely not Rabbi. Hillel was a Rabbi. and sorry, to share that title with a reform or conservative leader is just a slap in the face to Hillel, Akiva, and other great Rabbis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>
<p>eh, I&#8217;d give them the title &#8220;Leader&#8221; but definitely not Rabbi. Hillel was a Rabbi. and sorry, to share that title with a reform or conservative leader is just a slap in the face to Hillel, Akiva, and other great Rabbis.</p>
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		<title>By: Steves Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-361754</link>
		<dc:creator>Steves Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tehcnically speaking, they are Rabbi&#039;s if they are conduction Jewish religious rituals and making decisions. I would say that they are Conservative Rabbi&#039;s, Reform Rabbi&#039;s, but not Orthodox Rabbi&#039;s, since they don&#039;t conform to a relatively unchanging methodology, but rather, they study this past Orthodoxy and decide if and what is relevant to the changing lifestyles.

SO I would call them Rabbi, out of respect, due to the fact that they spend their time, basically helping people as any Orthodox Rabbi does, that is in the thousands of petty bothersome problems that the Rabbi is privy to, such as the anguish that people do go through, they turn and confide in their Rabbi, but privately, I don&#039;t consider them Orthodox Rabbi&#039;s in any way shape or form, meaning that even if there are those amongst them who know Talmud better than myself, I would not recognize this knowledge on a level that I would utilize.\

But give them credit, they handle an incredible amount of problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tehcnically speaking, they are Rabbi&#8217;s if they are conduction Jewish religious rituals and making decisions. I would say that they are Conservative Rabbi&#8217;s, Reform Rabbi&#8217;s, but not Orthodox Rabbi&#8217;s, since they don&#8217;t conform to a relatively unchanging methodology, but rather, they study this past Orthodoxy and decide if and what is relevant to the changing lifestyles.</p>
<p>SO I would call them Rabbi, out of respect, due to the fact that they spend their time, basically helping people as any Orthodox Rabbi does, that is in the thousands of petty bothersome problems that the Rabbi is privy to, such as the anguish that people do go through, they turn and confide in their Rabbi, but privately, I don&#8217;t consider them Orthodox Rabbi&#8217;s in any way shape or form, meaning that even if there are those amongst them who know Talmud better than myself, I would not recognize this knowledge on a level that I would utilize.\</p>
<p>But give them credit, they handle an incredible amount of problems.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-361380</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:roll:</description>
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		<title>By: CactusJack911</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-361296</link>
		<dc:creator>CactusJack911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 01:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, a conservative leader is still not a Rabbi. Your average 9 year old frum from birth kid could school him on Judaism.

Fake rabbi more like it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, a conservative leader is still not a Rabbi. Your average 9 year old frum from birth kid could school him on Judaism.</p>
<p>Fake rabbi more like it!</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-361226</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yeah, okay, but &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; he conceded to the friendly Conservative rabbi, he did reject calling either Reform or Conservative rabbis &quot;rabbi.&quot; Technically, my post is still correct although I sure do appreciate your input and the effort you&#039;ve put forth to make me appear to be...um, wrong.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yeah, okay, but <i>before</i> he conceded to the friendly Conservative rabbi, he did reject calling either Reform or Conservative rabbis &#8220;rabbi.&#8221; Technically, my post is still correct although I sure do appreciate your input and the effort you&#8217;ve put forth to make me appear to be&#8230;um, wrong.  <img src='http://www.jewlicious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Oyster</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-361196</link>
		<dc:creator>Oyster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TM: Get your act together! As clearly reported by     &lt;b&gt;you&lt;/b&gt; on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2370&amp;bcsi_scan_F300493B1D0BA974=w4GRHoi5b/jTc0NxCtGiewIAAAA+bqsB#comment-283260&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this Jewlicious comment&lt;/a&gt;, Katsav &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150885874899&amp;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;call Conservative rabbis, &quot;Rabbi&quot;&lt;/a&gt; now. Why? Because, unlike Reform Rabbi Yoffie, who went to the media and created a shit-fit out of nothing, a Conservative rabbi had a heart-to-heart talk with Katsav explaining his views on the matter, and Katsav agreed to call them &quot;Rabbi&quot;. It was a classic example of how one&#039;s tact &amp; approach makes a world of difference. Yoffie was more interested in theatrics and PR than in true dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TM: Get your act together! As clearly reported by     <b>you</b> on <a href="http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=2370&amp;bcsi_scan_F300493B1D0BA974=w4GRHoi5b/jTc0NxCtGiewIAAAA+bqsB#comment-283260" rel="nofollow">this Jewlicious comment</a>, Katsav <i>does</i> <a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150885874899&amp;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull" rel="nofollow">call Conservative rabbis, &#8220;Rabbi&#8221;</a> now. Why? Because, unlike Reform Rabbi Yoffie, who went to the media and created a shit-fit out of nothing, a Conservative rabbi had a heart-to-heart talk with Katsav explaining his views on the matter, and Katsav agreed to call them &#8220;Rabbi&#8221;. It was a classic example of how one&#8217;s tact &amp; approach makes a world of difference. Yoffie was more interested in theatrics and PR than in true dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-361162</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim-

&quot;what ever happened to women who could just stick up for themselves?&quot;

There is a reason that sexual harassment is against the law. A person who is a boss is in charge of your job, so you may not be/feel able to confront them or &quot;stand up for yourself.&quot; 

I thought that we had moved away from blaming the victim, but apparently not. To Cactus Jack, again, there is a reason why the laws have made it progressively easier and not harder to report a rape. It is always hard to prove, and often turns into a case of he said/she said. Does that mean that rape victims should just be ignored?

It is a trite example, but if your sister/mother/girlfriend/wife was raped by her boss, because he was bigger and stronger, and no one was around to hear it, yet he claimed it was consensual, would you feel the same way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim-</p>
<p>&#8220;what ever happened to women who could just stick up for themselves?&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a reason that sexual harassment is against the law. A person who is a boss is in charge of your job, so you may not be/feel able to confront them or &#8220;stand up for yourself.&#8221; </p>
<p>I thought that we had moved away from blaming the victim, but apparently not. To Cactus Jack, again, there is a reason why the laws have made it progressively easier and not harder to report a rape. It is always hard to prove, and often turns into a case of he said/she said. Does that mean that rape victims should just be ignored?</p>
<p>It is a trite example, but if your sister/mother/girlfriend/wife was raped by her boss, because he was bigger and stronger, and no one was around to hear it, yet he claimed it was consensual, would you feel the same way?</p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-360968</link>
		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Jim, PLEASE.  You really think it&#039;s that easy!!  Surely if women could stop themselves from being raped then there would be no rapes ever.  Don&#039;t be so naive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Jim, PLEASE.  You really think it&#8217;s that easy!!  Surely if women could stop themselves from being raped then there would be no rapes ever.  Don&#8217;t be so naive!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-360832</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What ever happened to women who could just stick up for themselves and say &quot;stay away from me you weirdo unless you want your ass reported&quot;, instead of claiming rape sometime later? I can&#039;t believe they were so helpless as to not to be able to stop a rape or attempted rape by a boss, for heaven sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What ever happened to women who could just stick up for themselves and say &#8220;stay away from me you weirdo unless you want your ass reported&#8221;, instead of claiming rape sometime later? I can&#8217;t believe they were so helpless as to not to be able to stop a rape or attempted rape by a boss, for heaven sake.</p>
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		<title>By: CactusJack911</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-360703</link>
		<dc:creator>CactusJack911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 01:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I agree. It&#039;s slander if there&#039;s no hardcore evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I agree. It&#8217;s slander if there&#8217;s no hardcore evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Steves Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-360666</link>
		<dc:creator>Steves Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that there has to be real proof in cases such as this. It is easy to call him a jack ass and declare him guilty. That is for a simpleton. Yes he could be guilty. But proof is needed. DNA, pics, what have you. Even w/ such evidence how do we know that these were not consensual acts? We have seen women make such claims w/ the idea of making millions.

Until there is such proof it is pathetic to speculate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that there has to be real proof in cases such as this. It is easy to call him a jack ass and declare him guilty. That is for a simpleton. Yes he could be guilty. But proof is needed. DNA, pics, what have you. Even w/ such evidence how do we know that these were not consensual acts? We have seen women make such claims w/ the idea of making millions.</p>
<p>Until there is such proof it is pathetic to speculate.</p>
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		<title>By: CactusJack911</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2006/09/eight/#comment-360619</link>
		<dc:creator>CactusJack911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least Katsav got one thing right by refused to call conservative and reform leaders Rabbi!

Maybe that&#039;s the one thing he got right with his life!

Shimon Peres probably calls the Pope Rabbi!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Katsav got one thing right by refused to call conservative and reform leaders Rabbi!</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s the one thing he got right with his life!</p>
<p>Shimon Peres probably calls the Pope Rabbi!</p>
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