the hollow-cause is the jews biggest weapon

a get out of jail free card

View from America: ‘Rachel Corrie’ is a liar

It also stands to reason that the comparison between Ms. Corrie and Ann Frank, or the comparisons of Ms. Corrie to people in the American South who were killed while helping African-Americans register to vote during the heyday of the Civil Rights movement here in this country are both poor anologies, and are stretching it. Here’s why: First of all, unlike Rachel Corrie, who voluntarily went over to Gaza, Ann Frank had no choice at all. Ann Frank and her family were committed to concentration camps and effectively murdered just simply for being who/what they were–Jewish. Regarding comparison of Ms. Corrie with Civil Rights workers in the American South who were murdererd in cold blood while helping African-Americans register to vote: that’s not a good anology either, imo, for the following reasons:
First of all, the Civil Rights Movement took place right here, on United States soil. Secondly, the Civil Rights workers in the American South were not confronting an organized military machine. Thirdly, the Ku Klux Klan, which was responsible for the killings of Civil Rights workers in the South had been targeting these particular civil rights workers for some time, and opened fire on them as they were driving by

Now, the Bulldozer Operator; there was a role with some traction. It’s easy to see how an enthusiastic actor would push that one a little too hard.

Ben

The situation of the Jews under the Nazis, and the situation of Israel vis-avis the Arabs, is not in any way analagous to the Indian situation. The Nazis were not civilized, and judging from their actions and rhetoric, neither are the palestinians. Nor do the Jews have a billion people to work with (would that we did!). I don’t believe necessarily that the palestinians are genocidal in the way the Nazis were; that is, while it is clear that they are intent upon the destruction of Israel and the extirpation of most of the Jews who live there now, there is sufficient reason to believe that if the Jews went back to being dhimmis under Muslim control as they once were that they would tolerate at least a token presence of Jews living among them, so long as the Jews knew their place.

Israel and Zionism is the Jewish thumb in the eye of Arab Muslim imperialsim and oppression. That is why it is a problem for them. And if the Jews want to remain free and independent, they will have to be ready to fight. If the situation of the Jews vs. the Nazis had been like the Indians vs. the British, where the Indians outnumbered the British 1,000 to 1, maybe the Jews could have taken that path. But the situation was the complete and utter reverse. The anti-Semites were the majority and the Jews were the minority. The same sitation prevails today vis-avis the Arabs. That is why the Indian model does not apply.

Kids like Corrie are worthy of compassion: I suspect ck’s right, that she got suckered, or simply gave in to an undiscerning, youthful enthusiasm, a phenomenon Nietzsche limned for the ages in Beyond Good and Evil at 31. A tragedy she never lived long enough to “introduce a little art into [her] sentiments”, as FN put it.

And Shy Guy, that quote from 1946 belongs to a whole different place and time, it is not applicable to the current situation, so please don’t get too stuck up on that.

The reason why I brought up Mr. Gandhi in the first place was to reply to Themiddle’s mention about peaceful resistance and because, in general, there are other ways to resist than conducting suicide bombings or other destructive ways.

“If we have to make compromises, with whom? Compromise and dialogue are not values in themselves if the question “with whom?” is not asked.”