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		<title>By: Down in the Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2007/02/the-hypocrisy-is-astounding/comment-page-2/#comment-1242492</link>
		<dc:creator>Down in the Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know where the Apartheid Wall will be in the Philadelphia area?

By the way, the Old South Africa was much better than the New South Africa...sorry...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know where the Apartheid Wall will be in the Philadelphia area?</p>
<p>By the way, the Old South Africa was much better than the New South Africa&#8230;sorry&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: George Jochnowitz</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2007/02/the-hypocrisy-is-astounding/comment-page-2/#comment-830171</link>
		<dc:creator>George Jochnowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Left licks Islamic ass.</description>
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		<title>By: Jewish Mother</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2007/02/the-hypocrisy-is-astounding/comment-page-2/#comment-529361</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewish Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a matter of public record that very significant sums supporting Jimmy Carter&#039;s Center come from Saudi sources. That&#039;s not all of his funding but the sums are still large. That is too convenient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a matter of public record that very significant sums supporting Jimmy Carter&#8217;s Center come from Saudi sources. That&#8217;s not all of his funding but the sums are still large. That is too convenient.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewish Mother</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2007/02/the-hypocrisy-is-astounding/comment-page-2/#comment-529359</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewish Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furgaia, nobody was disrespecting you. You write beautiful English and obviously just want a good world. You are correct that we are just like you in that way; we also want a good world. 

But you are just dealing in emotions. You have not answered one single intellectual challenge. Please don&#039;t do that. 

You just cannot bear that G-d gave us a country without allowing us to remain the peaceful people we were through two un-armed millenia. Well, we have tried to be nice about it but you can&#039;t have a country and be nice about it. Not even we can do that. 

Please try to remember that there is plenty of Arab and Islamic sovereignty in the world, in very large swathes of geography, all across North Africa, extending to the Far East.

It is perfectly all right for us to want to have a patch of oil-free sand the size of New Jersey. In peace. No one has injured the full functioning of the Jerusalem mosque either. There are services there every week.

This apartheid word cracked Middle up because of the utter falseness of it. 

Oh, and Jimmy Carter just MUST be wearing blue-tinted contacts. At his age everybody needs glasses. He is so handsome and earnest looking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furgaia, nobody was disrespecting you. You write beautiful English and obviously just want a good world. You are correct that we are just like you in that way; we also want a good world. </p>
<p>But you are just dealing in emotions. You have not answered one single intellectual challenge. Please don&#8217;t do that. </p>
<p>You just cannot bear that G-d gave us a country without allowing us to remain the peaceful people we were through two un-armed millenia. Well, we have tried to be nice about it but you can&#8217;t have a country and be nice about it. Not even we can do that. </p>
<p>Please try to remember that there is plenty of Arab and Islamic sovereignty in the world, in very large swathes of geography, all across North Africa, extending to the Far East.</p>
<p>It is perfectly all right for us to want to have a patch of oil-free sand the size of New Jersey. In peace. No one has injured the full functioning of the Jerusalem mosque either. There are services there every week.</p>
<p>This apartheid word cracked Middle up because of the utter falseness of it. </p>
<p>Oh, and Jimmy Carter just MUST be wearing blue-tinted contacts. At his age everybody needs glasses. He is so handsome and earnest looking.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I was only laughing a bit. But just so you know, it was about the remark where you said &quot;...xisnotx was doing such a superb job. He/She has all the facts and all the argumentation just right.&quot; I believe otherwise. I mean, Electronic Intifada talking points do not make a case and neither do articles from websites calling the ADL &quot;Jew Klux Klan.&quot;

Still, if what you want is peace, we&#039;re on the same side. My version of peace is simple: a Jewish state next to a Palestinian state. The terms of the agreement along the lines of what Barak proposed at Taba on the basis of Clinton&#039;s recommendations. The Palestinian state agrees to stay demilitarized and signs off on &quot;end of conflict.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I was only laughing a bit. But just so you know, it was about the remark where you said &#8220;&#8230;xisnotx was doing such a superb job. He/She has all the facts and all the argumentation just right.&#8221; I believe otherwise. I mean, Electronic Intifada talking points do not make a case and neither do articles from websites calling the ADL &#8220;Jew Klux Klan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still, if what you want is peace, we&#8217;re on the same side. My version of peace is simple: a Jewish state next to a Palestinian state. The terms of the agreement along the lines of what Barak proposed at Taba on the basis of Clinton&#8217;s recommendations. The Palestinian state agrees to stay demilitarized and signs off on &#8220;end of conflict.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jewish Mother</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2007/02/the-hypocrisy-is-astounding/comment-page-2/#comment-529091</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewish Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about me??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about me??</p>
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		<title>By: FurGaia</title>
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		<dc:creator>FurGaia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guys!

I&#039;m a little busy right now and shall get back to you later on the above.

Right now, I would simply take issue quickly with CK&#039;s remark: &quot;But whenever you&#039;re ready to dispense with the irrational hatred and really dumb rhetoric, let us know... we&#039;ll be here waiting.&quot;

1) What &quot;irrational hatred&quot;? I do not &quot;hate&quot; anybody. If you mean &quot;hatred of what people do to each other&quot;, then yes you are right. But is that hatred irrational? That&#039;s another issue.

2) &quot;really dumb rhetoric&quot;: Don&#039;t you know that, anthropologically speaking, there never is &quot;dumb rhetoric&quot;. You must listen to people and try to understand where they are coming from. I thought that I had explained why I support the Palestinian struggle. 

And &#039;middle&#039;, why do I have the feeling that you are not laughing that hard when all is said and done? As they say, thou doth protest too much. I think that, like me, you have not had a night of peaceful sleep for a long time. I&#039;ll really try to get back to you on your comment above. I don&#039;t know why but - you may laugh - I have that strong feeling that we may not be that different you and I.

I have to go! See you later, I hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little busy right now and shall get back to you later on the above.</p>
<p>Right now, I would simply take issue quickly with CK&#8217;s remark: &#8220;But whenever you&#8217;re ready to dispense with the irrational hatred and really dumb rhetoric, let us know&#8230; we&#8217;ll be here waiting.&#8221;</p>
<p>1) What &#8220;irrational hatred&#8221;? I do not &#8220;hate&#8221; anybody. If you mean &#8220;hatred of what people do to each other&#8221;, then yes you are right. But is that hatred irrational? That&#8217;s another issue.</p>
<p>2) &#8220;really dumb rhetoric&#8221;: Don&#8217;t you know that, anthropologically speaking, there never is &#8220;dumb rhetoric&#8221;. You must listen to people and try to understand where they are coming from. I thought that I had explained why I support the Palestinian struggle. </p>
<p>And &#8216;middle&#8217;, why do I have the feeling that you are not laughing that hard when all is said and done? As they say, thou doth protest too much. I think that, like me, you have not had a night of peaceful sleep for a long time. I&#8217;ll really try to get back to you on your comment above. I don&#8217;t know why but &#8211; you may laugh &#8211; I have that strong feeling that we may not be that different you and I.</p>
<p>I have to go! See you later, I hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewish Mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewish Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who put the emoticon in? I never use emoticons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who put the emoticon in? I never use emoticons.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewish Mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewish Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Israelis and Jews run around the Territories etc enjoying the scenery
2) they need sunglasses, hats, newspapers, sodas and souvenirs
3) Arab businesses spring up to supply same
4) Money flows into pockets of working-class Arabs
5) Working-class Arabs are no longer completely dependent on local leadership. They have their own resources now. 
6) Local leadership doesn&#039;t like this.
7) Local leadership orders up an Intifada. 
8) Customers are scared away
9) Also, little shops are forced at gunpoint to close for politcal days of rage. no profits.
10) Working-class Arabs go back to their dependency on local leadership because they are out of business.
11) Local leadership states that it is NICE to be in charge, and may it have some tea? Be quick about it. Don&#039;t try that independence stuff again, if you know what&#039;s good for you.

What does FUrgaia say to that? I know what Marx would say. Opressor class! he would say. And he wouldn&#039;t mean the Israeli customers. The departed customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Israelis and Jews run around the Territories etc enjoying the scenery<br />
2) they need sunglasses, hats, newspapers, sodas and souvenirs<br />
3) Arab businesses spring up to supply same<br />
4) Money flows into pockets of working-class Arabs<br />
5) Working-class Arabs are no longer completely dependent on local leadership. They have their own resources now.<br />
6) Local leadership doesn&#8217;t like this.<br />
7) Local leadership orders up an Intifada.<br />
 <img src='http://www.jewlicious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Customers are scared away<br />
9) Also, little shops are forced at gunpoint to close for politcal days of rage. no profits.<br />
10) Working-class Arabs go back to their dependency on local leadership because they are out of business.<br />
11) Local leadership states that it is NICE to be in charge, and may it have some tea? Be quick about it. Don&#8217;t try that independence stuff again, if you know what&#8217;s good for you.</p>
<p>What does FUrgaia say to that? I know what Marx would say. Opressor class! he would say. And he wouldn&#8217;t mean the Israeli customers. The departed customers.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FurGaia, it hurts when I laugh too hard.

How about this: the situation for the Palestinians has become worse, not better, every time they&#039;ve persisted with the very war on Israel that you support. It is not just a function of the immorality of targeting civilians instead of fighting soldiers, and it is not just the unjustness of fighting a war over what you believe you lost because of yet another war that you launched earlier. Rather, it is simply the stupid impracticality of it all. The Palestinians could already have had their state, with its capital in east Jerusalem and sovereignty over their section of the Temple Mount. This is a fact. Instead, they launched a war - completely unjustified, I might add - that has forced the Israelis to take the very steps about which you scream in your &quot;apartheid&quot; attacks. That includes the security barrier which would never have come into place without the constant suicide bombings. And that barrier, though it may be temprorary, leaves 7.5% of the West Bank to its west - including all of Jerusalem -  instead of the 2.5% the Israelis would have kept according to the Clinton plan which Barak accepted in 2000. And so it goes...compromise or keep walking backwards.

Glad to be of service. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll take what I wrote to heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FurGaia, it hurts when I laugh too hard.</p>
<p>How about this: the situation for the Palestinians has become worse, not better, every time they&#8217;ve persisted with the very war on Israel that you support. It is not just a function of the immorality of targeting civilians instead of fighting soldiers, and it is not just the unjustness of fighting a war over what you believe you lost because of yet another war that you launched earlier. Rather, it is simply the stupid impracticality of it all. The Palestinians could already have had their state, with its capital in east Jerusalem and sovereignty over their section of the Temple Mount. This is a fact. Instead, they launched a war &#8211; completely unjustified, I might add &#8211; that has forced the Israelis to take the very steps about which you scream in your &#8220;apartheid&#8221; attacks. That includes the security barrier which would never have come into place without the constant suicide bombings. And that barrier, though it may be temprorary, leaves 7.5% of the West Bank to its west &#8211; including all of Jerusalem &#8211;  instead of the 2.5% the Israelis would have kept according to the Clinton plan which Barak accepted in 2000. And so it goes&#8230;compromise or keep walking backwards.</p>
<p>Glad to be of service. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll take what I wrote to heart.</p>
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