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		<title>By: Jewish Mother</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/01/why-is-this-issue-being-kept-under-wraps/comment-page-1/#comment-838343</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewish Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this catches on, which I doubt , it would be much easier to bomb Jewish neighborhoods. It would be the end of all security there.

The Bet Din ruled against this, with startling force. Imagine, they ordered him to divorce his veiled wife, and he hadn&#039;t even asked for that. Good for the Bet Din. So we DO TOO have some competent authorities. 

No, Judaism is not a mental illness. It is a major civilisation and the source of much that you see around you. Shabbat Shalom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this catches on, which I doubt , it would be much easier to bomb Jewish neighborhoods. It would be the end of all security there.</p>
<p>The Bet Din ruled against this, with startling force. Imagine, they ordered him to divorce his veiled wife, and he hadn&#8217;t even asked for that. Good for the Bet Din. So we DO TOO have some competent authorities. </p>
<p>No, Judaism is not a mental illness. It is a major civilisation and the source of much that you see around you. Shabbat Shalom.</p>
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		<title>By: mikha'el</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikha'el</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks the God our women are starting to follow the halakha of married women wearing a radhidh over their miTpaHath in public.  A return to authentic Jewish culture and halakha is finally happening!  True servants of the God will give praise.  Others will scoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks the God our women are starting to follow the halakha of married women wearing a radhidh over their miTpaHath in public.  A return to authentic Jewish culture and halakha is finally happening!  True servants of the God will give praise.  Others will scoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Y-LOVE</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/01/why-is-this-issue-being-kept-under-wraps/comment-page-1/#comment-830851</link>
		<dc:creator>Y-LOVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://life-of-rubin.blogspot.com/2008/01/blogindm-rips-apart-chaim-berlins-wig.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See here.&lt;/a&gt;  It&#039;s not a rabbinical &quot;lack of spine&quot;, these types of things, if they are advocated, are eventually seen as &quot;what the people want&quot;, the &quot;decree&quot; that the people can &quot;stand on&quot;, and then it gets legislated.

Look at kashrus for Passover for instance. For example, once, I asked a Rosh Kollel in Flatbush once about the whole &quot;no processed food&quot; thing some Hasidim take on during Passover.  He responded with a story of a woman who had asked him if she could eat her Seder meal in her dining room.  She had forgotten to wash the &lt;b&gt;walls&lt;/b&gt; for Passover.

&quot;The walls?&quot; the rav asked.

&quot;Yes, can I eat there even though I didn&#039;t wash the walls?&quot;

&quot;Were you eating on the wall?&quot;

&quot;No, of course not.&quot;

&quot;So why are you asking?&quot;

&quot;It&#039;s Pesach!&quot; was the reply.  

&quot;No you don&#039;t have to wash your walls&quot;.  Of course she did anyway, and if she had students (b/c as we see above, Rebbetzin Keren is not a rabbi), chances are, she&#039;d tell them to wash their walls too.  And once enough women are doing it, it becomes &quot;tradition&quot; or &quot;what the velt does&quot; or &quot;how the &lt;i&gt;velt fiert zich&lt;/i&gt;&quot; and then things get codified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://life-of-rubin.blogspot.com/2008/01/blogindm-rips-apart-chaim-berlins-wig.html" rel="nofollow">See here.</a>  It&#8217;s not a rabbinical &#8220;lack of spine&#8221;, these types of things, if they are advocated, are eventually seen as &#8220;what the people want&#8221;, the &#8220;decree&#8221; that the people can &#8220;stand on&#8221;, and then it gets legislated.</p>
<p>Look at kashrus for Passover for instance. For example, once, I asked a Rosh Kollel in Flatbush once about the whole &#8220;no processed food&#8221; thing some Hasidim take on during Passover.  He responded with a story of a woman who had asked him if she could eat her Seder meal in her dining room.  She had forgotten to wash the <b>walls</b> for Passover.</p>
<p>&#8220;The walls?&#8221; the rav asked.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, can I eat there even though I didn&#8217;t wash the walls?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Were you eating on the wall?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, of course not.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;So why are you asking?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s Pesach!&#8221; was the reply.  </p>
<p>&#8220;No you don&#8217;t have to wash your walls&#8221;.  Of course she did anyway, and if she had students (b/c as we see above, Rebbetzin Keren is not a rabbi), chances are, she&#8217;d tell them to wash their walls too.  And once enough women are doing it, it becomes &#8220;tradition&#8221; or &#8220;what the velt does&#8221; or &#8220;how the <i>velt fiert zich</i>&#8221; and then things get codified.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben-David</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/01/why-is-this-issue-being-kept-under-wraps/comment-page-1/#comment-827271</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben-David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, the rabbinic leadership has repeatedly demonstrated their total lack of spine when faced with such situations. 

There is enormous peer pressure among these &quot;sages&quot; to not be caught out - not be seen as more lenient that other prominent rabbis. So they repeatedly fall into the trap of being manipulated by &quot;askanim&quot; - fanatical &quot;community leaders&quot; who often misrepresent the situation to get a Rabbinic signature on a ban.

This is what happened with the ban on Rabbi Slifkin&#039;s books about evolution - people who had never read the books condemned them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the rabbinic leadership has repeatedly demonstrated their total lack of spine when faced with such situations. </p>
<p>There is enormous peer pressure among these &#8220;sages&#8221; to not be caught out &#8211; not be seen as more lenient that other prominent rabbis. So they repeatedly fall into the trap of being manipulated by &#8220;askanim&#8221; &#8211; fanatical &#8220;community leaders&#8221; who often misrepresent the situation to get a Rabbinic signature on a ban.</p>
<p>This is what happened with the ban on Rabbi Slifkin&#8217;s books about evolution &#8211; people who had never read the books condemned them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This rebetzin sounds mentally ill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This rebetzin sounds mentally ill.</p>
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		<title>By: Die Zeit - joerglau &#187; Die jüdische Burka kommt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Die Zeit - joerglau &#187; Die jüdische Burka kommt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Y-LOVE</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/01/why-is-this-issue-being-kept-under-wraps/comment-page-1/#comment-824727</link>
		<dc:creator>Y-LOVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;radical women&quot; push their husbands into mandating this as the &quot;new standard&quot;-- and then burqas are commonplace.

This of course could cause a reverse reactionary backlash, and rabbanim could begin (gasp!) &lt;i&gt;relaxing&lt;/i&gt; standards...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;radical women&#8221; push their husbands into mandating this as the &#8220;new standard&#8221;&#8211; and then burqas are commonplace.</p>
<p>This of course could cause a reverse reactionary backlash, and rabbanim could begin (gasp!) <i>relaxing</i> standards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: urban gypsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>urban gypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this post extremely shocking, and it is difficult for me to believe that this would take off in popularity in any way. How prevalent is this? Odd fringe groups always get all the press...

Regarding the commenter from Muqata who said that, “[if] the Rabbanim are pushed by radical women into mandating this, Judaism will be permanently changed.” Well, since when have radical women ever succeeded in pushing rabbanim into anything? If someone has an example, please share. I don&#039;t know much about the history of this and am wondering how many times women have managed to exert their influence on the Israeli Rabbanut in such a fashion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this post extremely shocking, and it is difficult for me to believe that this would take off in popularity in any way. How prevalent is this? Odd fringe groups always get all the press&#8230;</p>
<p>Regarding the commenter from Muqata who said that, “[if] the Rabbanim are pushed by radical women into mandating this, Judaism will be permanently changed.” Well, since when have radical women ever succeeded in pushing rabbanim into anything? If someone has an example, please share. I don&#8217;t know much about the history of this and am wondering how many times women have managed to exert their influence on the Israeli Rabbanut in such a fashion?</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, talk about Islamic cultural influence! Maybe there&#039;s a silver lining to this cloud, however. If the ultra-orthodox make themselves to appear more and more like the Islamists in their practices, then maybe other Israelis will be so turned off to them that the orthodox in general will lose their out-of-proportion power within Israeli politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, talk about Islamic cultural influence! Maybe there&#8217;s a silver lining to this cloud, however. If the ultra-orthodox make themselves to appear more and more like the Islamists in their practices, then maybe other Israelis will be so turned off to them that the orthodox in general will lose their out-of-proportion power within Israeli politics.</p>
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		<title>By: JSinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That article is the most gratifying thing I&#039;ve read all day.

&lt;i&gt;Mi kaf regel v&#039;ad rosh&lt;/i&gt; is from my bar mitzvah  haftarah. How fortunate we are to live in an age where an article in an Israeli newspaper begins with Isaiah&#039;s turn of phrase!

I stopped reading at that point, though, figuring my mood could only go downhill from there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That article is the most gratifying thing I&#8217;ve read all day.</p>
<p><i>Mi kaf regel v&#8217;ad rosh</i> is from my bar mitzvah  haftarah. How fortunate we are to live in an age where an article in an Israeli newspaper begins with Isaiah&#8217;s turn of phrase!</p>
<p>I stopped reading at that point, though, figuring my mood could only go downhill from there&#8230;</p>
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