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		<title>By: Tom Morrissey</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/04/why-did-newsweek-lower-israels-green-rating/comment-page-1/#comment-912291</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Morrissey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 15:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mirrors and copulation are abominable because they increase the numbers of men.</description>
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		<title>By: Ben-David</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/04/why-did-newsweek-lower-israels-green-rating/comment-page-1/#comment-911550</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben-David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 14:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Froylein:
The price of grain - and most other commodities - has fallen over time. At least in places with free markets.

Mass global starvation has been predicted for over 60 years. Hasn&#039;t happened yet.

Ever heard of the Simon-Ehrlich wager?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon-Ehrlich_wager

Scarcity sparks innovation.

It&#039;s no accident that starvation occurs in areas without political or market freedoms - and that receiving (surplus!) Western food just contributes additional layers of corruption without relieving the situation.

40 years ago the people now flogging global warming were predicting the disastrous return of Ice Age glaciers - caused by aerosol hairspray emissions (don&#039;t laugh - it took a lot of hairspray to keep those &quot;beehives&quot; up! It&#039;s as &quot;scientific&quot; to think hairspray brings on glaciers as it is to think other human activities can cause global warming.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

Again - a pseudo-scientific modern morality play about the guilt of Western consumerism. 

And - what a coincidence! -  the solution they proposed then, as now, was centralized goverment control of our lives - for our own good, of course, because The Rest Of Us can&#039;t be trusted to think rationally like our betters.

No thanks - I&#039;ll leave the Passionspielen to Oberammergau. 

Give me free markets and rational scientific inquiry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Froylein:<br />
The price of grain &#8211; and most other commodities &#8211; has fallen over time. At least in places with free markets.</p>
<p>Mass global starvation has been predicted for over 60 years. Hasn&#8217;t happened yet.</p>
<p>Ever heard of the Simon-Ehrlich wager?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon-Ehrlich_wager" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon-Ehrlich_wager'>en.wikipedia.o...</a></p>
<p>Scarcity sparks innovation.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no accident that starvation occurs in areas without political or market freedoms &#8211; and that receiving (surplus!) Western food just contributes additional layers of corruption without relieving the situation.</p>
<p>40 years ago the people now flogging global warming were predicting the disastrous return of Ice Age glaciers &#8211; caused by aerosol hairspray emissions (don&#8217;t laugh &#8211; it took a lot of hairspray to keep those &#8220;beehives&#8221; up! It&#8217;s as &#8220;scientific&#8221; to think hairspray brings on glaciers as it is to think other human activities can cause global warming.)</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling'>en.wikipedia.o...</a></p>
<p>Again &#8211; a pseudo-scientific modern morality play about the guilt of Western consumerism. </p>
<p>And &#8211; what a coincidence! &#8211;  the solution they proposed then, as now, was centralized goverment control of our lives &#8211; for our own good, of course, because The Rest Of Us can&#8217;t be trusted to think rationally like our betters.</p>
<p>No thanks &#8211; I&#8217;ll leave the Passionspielen to Oberammergau. </p>
<p>Give me free markets and rational scientific inquiry.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 23:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the FSU, abortion WAS birth control.  I&#039;m pretty impartial about the issue as I think people in general are overrated and as a man, who am I to dictate to a woman what she should or should not do with her body?  However, I don&#039;t want my tax dollars going to subsidize irresponsible behavior.  If you play, you&#039;ve got to pay.  Me subsidizing someone&#039;s welfare lifestyle is plenty bad enough, I don&#039;t need to support more racist organizations like planned parenthood and the janksters that work there as well.  Maybe like a three strikes/you&#039;re on your own rule would be good. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the FSU, abortion WAS birth control.  I&#8217;m pretty impartial about the issue as I think people in general are overrated and as a man, who am I to dictate to a woman what she should or should not do with her body?  However, I don&#8217;t want my tax dollars going to subsidize irresponsible behavior.  If you play, you&#8217;ve got to pay.  Me subsidizing someone&#8217;s welfare lifestyle is plenty bad enough, I don&#8217;t need to support more racist organizations like planned parenthood and the janksters that work there as well.  Maybe like a three strikes/you&#8217;re on your own rule would be good. <img src='http://www.jewlicious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 23:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TM, I have the same exact problem.  It&#039;s been a month or so between my last two posts.  My last one is definitely hilarious, so please everyone, check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TM, I have the same exact problem.  It&#8217;s been a month or so between my last two posts.  My last one is definitely hilarious, so please everyone, check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 22:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Alex, I&#039;m working today but if you were to read the draft posts, you&#039;d see I had actually started to write a post about the British Jews who published that letter long before LGF had it on their radar. The post includes a brief mention of the Hamas claim that Jews were responsible for the Shoah. 

Sadly for me and for you, I do have to make a living sometimes and I ran out of time when writing that post and had to take a break. So relax, it will probably be published later today or not at all. We do not have enough active writers to cover everything all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Alex, I&#8217;m working today but if you were to read the draft posts, you&#8217;d see I had actually started to write a post about the British Jews who published that letter long before LGF had it on their radar. The post includes a brief mention of the Hamas claim that Jews were responsible for the Shoah. </p>
<p>Sadly for me and for you, I do have to make a living sometimes and I ran out of time when writing that post and had to take a break. So relax, it will probably be published later today or not at all. We do not have enough active writers to cover everything all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 22:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam does have a point.  Today there were several major issues of importance to the world Jewish community besides Yomhashoah such as 1) Hamas&#039;s (BTW now called The Friends of Jimmy Carter) gift to the Jewish people on Yomhashoah of a TV program explaining how the satanic Jews created the Shoah to kill off our mentally and physically handicapped: http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/01/video-hamas-tv-blows-the-lid-off-the-holocaust/ , and 2) a group of British self-hating c*** s****** Jews wrote an open letter stating that they will not commemorate nor celebrate Israel&#039;s 60th celebration because Israel was &quot;founded on terrorism, massacres and the dispossession of another people from their land. We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state that even now engages in ethnic cleansing, that violates international law, that is inflicting a monstrous collective punishment on the civilian population of Gaza and that continues to deny to Palestinians their human rights and national aspirations.&quot;

Neither of these were blogged about here and I wonder why right leaning sites like LGF and Hotair bring more attention to these serious issues than a site dedicated to Judaism.

Other than that, I love the stuff covered here and enjoy visiting, reading, thinking, and commenting.  Maybe you guys just need to spread out the spectrum of Jewish opinion here as you can tell many of us atypical Jews frequent the site often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam does have a point.  Today there were several major issues of importance to the world Jewish community besides Yomhashoah such as 1) Hamas&#8217;s (BTW now called The Friends of Jimmy Carter) gift to the Jewish people on Yomhashoah of a TV program explaining how the satanic Jews created the Shoah to kill off our mentally and physically handicapped: <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/01/video-hamas-tv-blows-the-lid-off-the-holocaust/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/01/video-hamas-tv-blows-the-lid-off-the-holocaust/'>hotair.com/arc...</a> , and 2) a group of British self-hating c*** s****** Jews wrote an open letter stating that they will not commemorate nor celebrate Israel&#8217;s 60th celebration because Israel was &#8220;founded on terrorism, massacres and the dispossession of another people from their land. We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state that even now engages in ethnic cleansing, that violates international law, that is inflicting a monstrous collective punishment on the civilian population of Gaza and that continues to deny to Palestinians their human rights and national aspirations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Neither of these were blogged about here and I wonder why right leaning sites like LGF and Hotair bring more attention to these serious issues than a site dedicated to Judaism.</p>
<p>Other than that, I love the stuff covered here and enjoy visiting, reading, thinking, and commenting.  Maybe you guys just need to spread out the spectrum of Jewish opinion here as you can tell many of us atypical Jews frequent the site often.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Morrissey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Morrissey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone interested in the issues discussed here may want to ask Middle for information about the Nader for President campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone interested in the issues discussed here may want to ask Middle for information about the Nader for President campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
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		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 08:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B-D, if those environmental engineers are as real as you make them out to be (from what you tell me, they are into EIA, environmental impact assessment, just as my brother is), they could tell you that global warming as an effect of industrialization may still be called speculative, but findings of fossil wood as well as the weather recordings of 128 years now tell us there &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; been changes in climate, currently to the warmer side. Partly the reasons are natural ones (cooler climates were recorded for years succeeding e.g. wars and major volcano eruptions as the dirt in the atmosphere served as a reflector to a large part of sunrays, so warmer years could be tracked for when the atmosphere eventually cleaned up), partly human induced (air pollution). Just that at no point in history there has been a world population and a demand for food as well as resources as there currently is; so either we&#039;ll cope with the concept of people migrating in the billions to make do with their environmental needs or the possibility of climatic change, if even just for a few centuries, and ways to limit its effects. Just standing by and saying, &quot;I was right. Had you not crossed the street, the car wouldn&#039;t have hit you to begin with, so blame yourself&quot;, is not a desirable and mature attitude.
As for the opposition to genetic research, transgenics and stemcell research rather, over here it&#039;s mostly religiously motivated. As the stories of the expulsion from gan eden as well as the failure in building the tower of Babel show us, our sages of old wanted us to understand that when we try to play god, we&#039;re prone to fail and destroy ourselves. As for stemcell research, the stemcells are generally taken from aborted fetuses; depending on the country of origin, the mother&#039;s consent is not needed (those cells can also be used in cosmetic products / treatments). I&#039;m not familiar in how far in your circles people learn about abortions, but over here, there are quite a few steps to go through to minimize the number of abortions out of a mood (the doctor who determines the pregnacy may not carry out the abortion; there&#039;s a compulsory meeting with a social / family counsellor before one can go through with an abortion; abortions are generally illegal but will not be persecuted under certain circumstances, e.g. they must be carried out before the 13th week of pregnacy, and can be carried out later if the mother&#039;s life is at risk), which tries to ensure that women will take that decision seriously. (Off topic: to brief you in, during abortions a powerful vaccuum hose first tears off the fetus&#039; arms and legs, then the corpus is torn off the head. Since the diametre of the head usually is too large for the vaccuum hoses, the doctor carrying out the abortion reaches into the uterus with a pair of pliers to crash the skull before sucking it out. Remaining pieces of the fetus can lead to serious infections; the whole procedure increases the risk of later miscarriages and infertility.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B-D, if those environmental engineers are as real as you make them out to be (from what you tell me, they are into EIA, environmental impact assessment, just as my brother is), they could tell you that global warming as an effect of industrialization may still be called speculative, but findings of fossil wood as well as the weather recordings of 128 years now tell us there <em>have</em> been changes in climate, currently to the warmer side. Partly the reasons are natural ones (cooler climates were recorded for years succeeding e.g. wars and major volcano eruptions as the dirt in the atmosphere served as a reflector to a large part of sunrays, so warmer years could be tracked for when the atmosphere eventually cleaned up), partly human induced (air pollution). Just that at no point in history there has been a world population and a demand for food as well as resources as there currently is; so either we&#8217;ll cope with the concept of people migrating in the billions to make do with their environmental needs or the possibility of climatic change, if even just for a few centuries, and ways to limit its effects. Just standing by and saying, &#8220;I was right. Had you not crossed the street, the car wouldn&#8217;t have hit you to begin with, so blame yourself&#8221;, is not a desirable and mature attitude.<br />
As for the opposition to genetic research, transgenics and stemcell research rather, over here it&#8217;s mostly religiously motivated. As the stories of the expulsion from gan eden as well as the failure in building the tower of Babel show us, our sages of old wanted us to understand that when we try to play god, we&#8217;re prone to fail and destroy ourselves. As for stemcell research, the stemcells are generally taken from aborted fetuses; depending on the country of origin, the mother&#8217;s consent is not needed (those cells can also be used in cosmetic products / treatments). I&#8217;m not familiar in how far in your circles people learn about abortions, but over here, there are quite a few steps to go through to minimize the number of abortions out of a mood (the doctor who determines the pregnacy may not carry out the abortion; there&#8217;s a compulsory meeting with a social / family counsellor before one can go through with an abortion; abortions are generally illegal but will not be persecuted under certain circumstances, e.g. they must be carried out before the 13th week of pregnacy, and can be carried out later if the mother&#8217;s life is at risk), which tries to ensure that women will take that decision seriously. (Off topic: to brief you in, during abortions a powerful vaccuum hose first tears off the fetus&#8217; arms and legs, then the corpus is torn off the head. Since the diametre of the head usually is too large for the vaccuum hoses, the doctor carrying out the abortion reaches into the uterus with a pair of pliers to crash the skull before sucking it out. Remaining pieces of the fetus can lead to serious infections; the whole procedure increases the risk of later miscarriages and infertility.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ben-David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben-David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 08:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Froylein:

I have worked with real environmental engineers - people who use real science to estimate the (proven) health and environmental impacts of contruction and industry, and who use proven technologies to mitigate/clean up those impacts.

But that has nothing at all to do with the current, totally unscientific, politically motivated &quot;green movement&quot;. 

It has nothing to do with the pseudo-science of global warming or the hysterical opposition to genetic research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Froylein:</p>
<p>I have worked with real environmental engineers &#8211; people who use real science to estimate the (proven) health and environmental impacts of contruction and industry, and who use proven technologies to mitigate/clean up those impacts.</p>
<p>But that has nothing at all to do with the current, totally unscientific, politically motivated &#8220;green movement&#8221;. </p>
<p>It has nothing to do with the pseudo-science of global warming or the hysterical opposition to genetic research.</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
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		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 06:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, if the site&#039;s just good for the music videos, I suggest you might want to restrict your comments to those posts then and let the adults talk about issues that really matter to them, e.g. shashlik.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, if the site&#8217;s just good for the music videos, I suggest you might want to restrict your comments to those posts then and let the adults talk about issues that really matter to them, e.g. shashlik.</p>
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