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	<title>Comments on: Woody Allen Sues American Apparel</title>
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		<title>By: Jewlicious &#187; What would you do if you had $10,000,000?</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/04/woody-allen-sues-american-apparel/comment-page-1/#comment-1299571</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewlicious &#187; What would you do if you had $10,000,000?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just got online to read the news to find that there&#8217;s some progress in Woody Allen suing American Apparel over the use of his image, which he hadn&#8217;t endorsed, claiming the billboards had damaged his reputation. Now AA is turning the tables: A clothing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] just got online to read the news to find that there&#8217;s some progress in Woody Allen suing American Apparel over the use of his image, which he hadn&#8217;t endorsed, claiming the billboards had damaged his reputation. Now AA is turning the tables: A clothing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/04/woody-allen-sues-american-apparel/comment-page-1/#comment-936019</link>
		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This fight is a tragic chapter in our quest for the ever-elusive goal of Jewish unity. Particularly today, when the Lower East Side is deemed an endangered historic area, Woody and AA should be banding together to stop the bulldozer of the developers. Perhaps AA could help those who are seeking to stop the destruction, and could invite Woody--who has expressed concern over the L.E.S.&#039;s destruction, to join them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This fight is a tragic chapter in our quest for the ever-elusive goal of Jewish unity. Particularly today, when the Lower East Side is deemed an endangered historic area, Woody and AA should be banding together to stop the bulldozer of the developers. Perhaps AA could help those who are seeking to stop the destruction, and could invite Woody&#8211;who has expressed concern over the L.E.S.&#8217;s destruction, to join them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/04/woody-allen-sues-american-apparel/comment-page-1/#comment-936007</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 16:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody Allen is a child molestor.  How does he end up marrying his stepdaughter?  Sick bastard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody Allen is a child molestor.  How does he end up marrying his stepdaughter?  Sick bastard!</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/04/woody-allen-sues-american-apparel/comment-page-1/#comment-922574</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 01:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the contrary, it increases his market value precisely because this generated press and attention. He can make a fair claim that he doesn&#039;t do advertising in the US market and this ad violates his efforts to maintain a particular posture in this marketplace, but it is very hard to convince me that his market value has done anything but move up after this. 

I would like to know how many billboards and other ads American Apparel has going on in the US at any given time. This was one billboard that was up briefly and really didn&#039;t get much attention. Allen&#039;s lawsuit created far more attention to the ad than anything that preceded the suit. I think that even if you make the claim that AA stole intellectual property here, and again, I&#039;m not debating that point (just that it&#039;s not Woody Allen&#039;s but the film owner&#039;s intellectual property), the first question that comes to mind is what would be the value of this action. One billboard out of dozens or hundreds plus who knows how many print and Internet ads just doesn&#039;t seem to amount to much. 

However, if Woody Allen wishes to amuse me as he has in his fine films - especially the earlier ones - with lawsuits that appear to inflate a minor offense to mercurial status, that&#039;s fine. Somebody has to generate copy for AP and Reuters. And Jewlicious. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the contrary, it increases his market value precisely because this generated press and attention. He can make a fair claim that he doesn&#8217;t do advertising in the US market and this ad violates his efforts to maintain a particular posture in this marketplace, but it is very hard to convince me that his market value has done anything but move up after this. </p>
<p>I would like to know how many billboards and other ads American Apparel has going on in the US at any given time. This was one billboard that was up briefly and really didn&#8217;t get much attention. Allen&#8217;s lawsuit created far more attention to the ad than anything that preceded the suit. I think that even if you make the claim that AA stole intellectual property here, and again, I&#8217;m not debating that point (just that it&#8217;s not Woody Allen&#8217;s but the film owner&#8217;s intellectual property), the first question that comes to mind is what would be the value of this action. One billboard out of dozens or hundreds plus who knows how many print and Internet ads just doesn&#8217;t seem to amount to much. </p>
<p>However, if Woody Allen wishes to amuse me as he has in his fine films &#8211; especially the earlier ones &#8211; with lawsuits that appear to inflate a minor offense to mercurial status, that&#8217;s fine. Somebody has to generate copy for AP and Reuters. And Jewlicious.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Parsons</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/04/woody-allen-sues-american-apparel/comment-page-1/#comment-922548</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 00:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree it doesn&#039;t pose any significant harm to his reputation. I would think he may benefit from it. 
It does, however, lower his market value for any future commercial endorsement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree it doesn&#8217;t pose any significant harm to his reputation. I would think he may benefit from it.<br />
It does, however, lower his market value for any future commercial endorsement.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Parsons</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/04/woody-allen-sues-american-apparel/comment-page-1/#comment-922540</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 00:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advertising is a profession for a great number of people. It is their livelihood. American Apparel chose rather than pay for creative services, to steal work for which they know they haven&#039;t the right to use. A cease and desist letter is not a deterrent from doing it again. It is not about Woody Allen or the car deals made by movie producers working on Harrison Ford projects. It is about a tee shirt company stealing intellectual property to generate more money without incurring the costs associated with advertising. They could have reshot a similar image but it wouldn&#039;t have had impact that shot with Allen had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advertising is a profession for a great number of people. It is their livelihood. American Apparel chose rather than pay for creative services, to steal work for which they know they haven&#8217;t the right to use. A cease and desist letter is not a deterrent from doing it again. It is not about Woody Allen or the car deals made by movie producers working on Harrison Ford projects. It is about a tee shirt company stealing intellectual property to generate more money without incurring the costs associated with advertising. They could have reshot a similar image but it wouldn&#8217;t have had impact that shot with Allen had.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Harrison Ford have the right to restrict Spielberg from getting money from Toyota to use their cars exclusively in the film? If he doesn&#039;t, then he is lending his presence for an endorsement of products for which he receives no remuneration. 

Your question about the percentage of American Apparel customers is interesting. I would think most AA customers couldn&#039;t identify the movie OR Woody Allen although I probably agree that more would recognize Allen over the film. 

But it&#039;s your final question that brings me back to mine. I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s appropriate and it is probably not within my legal rights to use an image of Ford in an IA movie to generate revenue or other responses. However, if I were to briefly use an image of Jones in a humorous way on one billboard (when I have a national presence) and remove it immediately upon notification from Jones&#039; people that it offends him, then I would think that my &quot;crime&quot; is a small one. The notion that it merits a $10 million lawsuit (even if it&#039;s just a starting point for settlement talks) is absurd and it is even more ridiculous to suggest that harm has been caused to Allen because the image is one that he himself put up on screens. 

Even the claim that association with American Apparel somehow harms Allen&#039;s image is relatively weak since the image used is clearly intended to be humorous and doesn&#039;t indicate that Allen, the person, supports the company. Rather, the impression I get is that a character created by Allen - and clearly a humorous character at that, especially if you know the history of AA advertising - is a supporter of the company. In other words, a &quot;literary&quot; creation - a fiction - is a fan. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Harrison Ford have the right to restrict Spielberg from getting money from Toyota to use their cars exclusively in the film? If he doesn&#8217;t, then he is lending his presence for an endorsement of products for which he receives no remuneration. </p>
<p>Your question about the percentage of American Apparel customers is interesting. I would think most AA customers couldn&#8217;t identify the movie OR Woody Allen although I probably agree that more would recognize Allen over the film. </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s your final question that brings me back to mine. I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s appropriate and it is probably not within my legal rights to use an image of Ford in an IA movie to generate revenue or other responses. However, if I were to briefly use an image of Jones in a humorous way on one billboard (when I have a national presence) and remove it immediately upon notification from Jones&#8217; people that it offends him, then I would think that my &#8220;crime&#8221; is a small one. The notion that it merits a $10 million lawsuit (even if it&#8217;s just a starting point for settlement talks) is absurd and it is even more ridiculous to suggest that harm has been caused to Allen because the image is one that he himself put up on screens. </p>
<p>Even the claim that association with American Apparel somehow harms Allen&#8217;s image is relatively weak since the image used is clearly intended to be humorous and doesn&#8217;t indicate that Allen, the person, supports the company. Rather, the impression I get is that a character created by Allen &#8211; and clearly a humorous character at that, especially if you know the history of AA advertising &#8211; is a supporter of the company. In other words, a &#8220;literary&#8221; creation &#8211; a fiction &#8211; is a fan.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Parsons</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/04/woody-allen-sues-american-apparel/comment-page-1/#comment-922358</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The film studio does not wholly own the images of the actors in their films. There are imposed limitations and Steven Spielberg cannot legally license images of Harrison Ford from his movie to imply he endorses Dewars scotch, Levi&#039;s, or any other product.

It isn&#039;t the movie that merits the attention. If it were an image from another scene of the movie where the actors weren&#039;t featured prominently, no one would take issue. What percentage of American Apparel customers can identify the movie from which it was taken and what percentage can identify Allen? Do you believe using an image of Harrison Ford from Indiana Jones to generate revenue is within your legal rights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The film studio does not wholly own the images of the actors in their films. There are imposed limitations and Steven Spielberg cannot legally license images of Harrison Ford from his movie to imply he endorses Dewars scotch, Levi&#8217;s, or any other product.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t the movie that merits the attention. If it were an image from another scene of the movie where the actors weren&#8217;t featured prominently, no one would take issue. What percentage of American Apparel customers can identify the movie from which it was taken and what percentage can identify Allen? Do you believe using an image of Harrison Ford from Indiana Jones to generate revenue is within your legal rights?</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I&#039;m not a lawyer but the image that was used was from a movie and the owners of that movie would own the copyright to this image. I assume that if you&#039;re right and this is &quot;theft&quot; then the victims are the movie&#039;s owners. But it is Allen who is suing and the suit is described as &quot;blatant misappropriation and commercial use of Allen’s image.&quot; Does that mean that if I use an image from, say, an &quot;Indiana Jones&quot; movie to promote a business, that Harrison Ford can sue me? He doesn&#039;t own the film. 

Anyway, hasn&#039;t anybody heard of asking for a public apology and a donation to charity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I&#8217;m not a lawyer but the image that was used was from a movie and the owners of that movie would own the copyright to this image. I assume that if you&#8217;re right and this is &#8220;theft&#8221; then the victims are the movie&#8217;s owners. But it is Allen who is suing and the suit is described as &#8220;blatant misappropriation and commercial use of Allen’s image.&#8221; Does that mean that if I use an image from, say, an &#8220;Indiana Jones&#8221; movie to promote a business, that Harrison Ford can sue me? He doesn&#8217;t own the film. </p>
<p>Anyway, hasn&#8217;t anybody heard of asking for a public apology and a donation to charity?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Parsons</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/04/woody-allen-sues-american-apparel/comment-page-1/#comment-922217</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would any company pay a public figure to endorse their products if they were free to use whatever images were available of anyone they wanted? American Apparel committed an act of theft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would any company pay a public figure to endorse their products if they were free to use whatever images were available of anyone they wanted? American Apparel committed an act of theft.</p>
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