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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/09/emperor-without-clothes-an-early-election-post/#comment-1035402</link>
		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She sure as shit  is a lot tougher than I am...and I want things even easier for my daughters.</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 05:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, sounds like she&#039;s a lot tougher than you and other women you know.  Personally, growing up around tough and intelligent women like my grandmothers (who raised multiple children in Russia) and my dear mom, who both made an excellent mother and a Head of Staff Physician with her own private practice after moving to America with nothing and having to go back to medical school, my perception and expectations of women are vastly different to those of my friends and many Americans in both red and blue states.  I admire women whom are both career women and caring mothers and I don&#039;t see why someone can&#039;t be both.  I also expect fathers to share in that burden.  When my mom was in residency (during my formative years), every third night she was away, and I had to spend those nights with dad.  Sure it sucked, sure I wanted her at home, but my life and the life of others has been better because of that &quot;choice&quot; she made.

Just like women want men who can fit multiple roles: (career, sport, lover, fighter, macho, metro, etc.), I respect a woman who can both be sexy and quaint as well as one who can get her hands dirty.  And any woman who can hold her own, throw a punch, exert dominance around men in business situations, and use a weapon, earns extra credit.  I love them IDF girls!

I love the liberal mentality though.  Respect of third world cultures, yet a disdain for them when every more or norm is on the table.  In the undeveloped world, it&#039;s mainly women that have to butcher or at least skin and treat the kill, including breaking chicken necks, slicing lambs heads off, pulling the intestines out of a pig, etc..  What makes you think people who hunt do it for fun and hobby?  My relatives from Alaska just sent me a care package with the following items (all caught or killed by them, with the exception of the shellfish): moose, bear, goat, king salmon, red salmon, Halibut, and king crab legs.  Very tasty food.  Half of those were killed or caught by wife&#039;s cousin while pregnant, who just had her first baby boy 1 month ago.  She&#039;s actually pretty attractive as well.  Nothing scary about her.  But, I assume that stereotype (liberals claim never to stereotype too, hehe) will stick in your head nonetheless, while chasing shoes at Barney&#039;s, which mind you, are my wife&#039;s favorites. :)

I hate to break this to you, but not all women are the same, nor should be.  I don&#039;t think Palin is a feminist, nor should she be.  Why should she dislike men, always act like a victim, ignore the differences between the genders, and think she can do everything without help from her husband?  Those are feminist values to me, and why I relate that word to every other victimized group.

What I think I see from a lot of women and men ever since they announced Palin, is projection, jealousy, and condescension.  Total feminist values, if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, sounds like she&#8217;s a lot tougher than you and other women you know.  Personally, growing up around tough and intelligent women like my grandmothers (who raised multiple children in Russia) and my dear mom, who both made an excellent mother and a Head of Staff Physician with her own private practice after moving to America with nothing and having to go back to medical school, my perception and expectations of women are vastly different to those of my friends and many Americans in both red and blue states.  I admire women whom are both career women and caring mothers and I don&#8217;t see why someone can&#8217;t be both.  I also expect fathers to share in that burden.  When my mom was in residency (during my formative years), every third night she was away, and I had to spend those nights with dad.  Sure it sucked, sure I wanted her at home, but my life and the life of others has been better because of that &#8220;choice&#8221; she made.</p>
<p>Just like women want men who can fit multiple roles: (career, sport, lover, fighter, macho, metro, etc.), I respect a woman who can both be sexy and quaint as well as one who can get her hands dirty.  And any woman who can hold her own, throw a punch, exert dominance around men in business situations, and use a weapon, earns extra credit.  I love them IDF girls!</p>
<p>I love the liberal mentality though.  Respect of third world cultures, yet a disdain for them when every more or norm is on the table.  In the undeveloped world, it&#8217;s mainly women that have to butcher or at least skin and treat the kill, including breaking chicken necks, slicing lambs heads off, pulling the intestines out of a pig, etc..  What makes you think people who hunt do it for fun and hobby?  My relatives from Alaska just sent me a care package with the following items (all caught or killed by them, with the exception of the shellfish): moose, bear, goat, king salmon, red salmon, Halibut, and king crab legs.  Very tasty food.  Half of those were killed or caught by wife&#8217;s cousin while pregnant, who just had her first baby boy 1 month ago.  She&#8217;s actually pretty attractive as well.  Nothing scary about her.  But, I assume that stereotype (liberals claim never to stereotype too, hehe) will stick in your head nonetheless, while chasing shoes at Barney&#8217;s, which mind you, are my wife&#8217;s favorites. <img src='http://www.jewlicious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I hate to break this to you, but not all women are the same, nor should be.  I don&#8217;t think Palin is a feminist, nor should she be.  Why should she dislike men, always act like a victim, ignore the differences between the genders, and think she can do everything without help from her husband?  Those are feminist values to me, and why I relate that word to every other victimized group.</p>
<p>What I think I see from a lot of women and men ever since they announced Palin, is projection, jealousy, and condescension.  Total feminist values, if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/09/emperor-without-clothes-an-early-election-post/#comment-1034150</link>
		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Restated:  women who are emotionally capable of killing animals for fun and hobby are just freakin&#039; scary.

Alex, we all know Jews going around telling other Jews they are not real Jews every day and  most frequently on this very blog.  The &quot;who is a Jew&quot; debate rages alive and  well. 

The &quot;who is a feminist&quot; debate rages on as well.  Feminism represents different things in each generation.  During the battle for Sufferage, feminism was equated with giving the woman the right to vote.  Feminism today is about choices without judgment.

You can call Palin a feminist and you could probably even call her a good Governor of Alaska and an expert the needs of Alaska&#039;s small towns.  However, you can not  call her a friend to working mother&#039;s or someone who understands the needs of single mothers in large urban cities.  

Does anyone know if she&#039;s ever been to New York or seen the footprint of the World  Trade Center, because I can tell you she&#039;s never been to a sale at Barney&#039;s . Show me a woman who can hunt and capture the items she wants there and then I&#039;ll show you a pitbull in lipstick.

Does this woman believe that 3 day stays in hospitals after giving birth are too long?  It seems she would prefer woman give birth on the job or at the hockey games of their other 9 kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Restated:  women who are emotionally capable of killing animals for fun and hobby are just freakin&#8217; scary.</p>
<p>Alex, we all know Jews going around telling other Jews they are not real Jews every day and  most frequently on this very blog.  The &#8220;who is a Jew&#8221; debate rages alive and  well. </p>
<p>The &#8220;who is a feminist&#8221; debate rages on as well.  Feminism represents different things in each generation.  During the battle for Sufferage, feminism was equated with giving the woman the right to vote.  Feminism today is about choices without judgment.</p>
<p>You can call Palin a feminist and you could probably even call her a good Governor of Alaska and an expert the needs of Alaska&#8217;s small towns.  However, you can not  call her a friend to working mother&#8217;s or someone who understands the needs of single mothers in large urban cities.  </p>
<p>Does anyone know if she&#8217;s ever been to New York or seen the footprint of the World  Trade Center, because I can tell you she&#8217;s never been to a sale at Barney&#8217;s . Show me a woman who can hunt and capture the items she wants there and then I&#8217;ll show you a pitbull in lipstick.</p>
<p>Does this woman believe that 3 day stays in hospitals after giving birth are too long?  It seems she would prefer woman give birth on the job or at the hockey games of their other 9 kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feminism is women telling other women how to run their lives and/or their family and doubting their feminist credentials. It&#039;s like me telling CK that he&#039;s not a &quot;real&quot; man or a &quot;real&quot; Jew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feminism is women telling other women how to run their lives and/or their family and doubting their feminist credentials. It&#8217;s like me telling CK that he&#8217;s not a &#8220;real&#8221; man or a &#8220;real&#8221; Jew.</p>
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		<title>By: TNC</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/09/emperor-without-clothes-an-early-election-post/#comment-1033802</link>
		<dc:creator>TNC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Women who can kill animals with a gun are just freakin’ scary.&quot;

Do you prefer they kill them with a knife or their bare hands?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Women who can kill animals with a gun are just freakin’ scary.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you prefer they kill them with a knife or their bare hands?</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She delivered a speech while leaking amniotic fluid and returned to work a day later?!?!?!  People are calling that feminism?  

Many slaves on the  Pre-Civil War plantations got more maternity leave than that from their masters, although many birthed in the field while leaking amniotic fluid and then kept right on working the field.

This woman may be a friend to special needs children but SHE IS NO FRIEND OF WORKING MOTHERS!

I am truly scared for what is expected for the next generation of young women if this is what people call &quot;FEMINISM&quot;.

Feminism is when the husband wakes up in the middle of the night to do a feeding so the &quot;kempator&quot; can sleep.  Feminism is when the husband hires a baby nurse for a full 3 months with the paycheck he brought home.   

Feminism is when a working mother&#039;s job is at the same pay level of  her male peer  AND  her job is still there for her when she CHOOSES  to come back to work, whether she is a  single mother, an adoptive mother, a lesbian mother, or a surrogate mother.

Holy Freakin&#039; Gloria Steinem Batman, this woman is the Joker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She delivered a speech while leaking amniotic fluid and returned to work a day later?!?!?!  People are calling that feminism?  </p>
<p>Many slaves on the  Pre-Civil War plantations got more maternity leave than that from their masters, although many birthed in the field while leaking amniotic fluid and then kept right on working the field.</p>
<p>This woman may be a friend to special needs children but SHE IS NO FRIEND OF WORKING MOTHERS!</p>
<p>I am truly scared for what is expected for the next generation of young women if this is what people call &#8220;FEMINISM&#8221;.</p>
<p>Feminism is when the husband wakes up in the middle of the night to do a feeding so the &#8220;kempator&#8221; can sleep.  Feminism is when the husband hires a baby nurse for a full 3 months with the paycheck he brought home.   </p>
<p>Feminism is when a working mother&#8217;s job is at the same pay level of  her male peer  AND  her job is still there for her when she CHOOSES  to come back to work, whether she is a  single mother, an adoptive mother, a lesbian mother, or a surrogate mother.</p>
<p>Holy Freakin&#8217; Gloria Steinem Batman, this woman is the Joker!</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>above should have said that at least Hillary was in</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>above should have said that at least Hillary was in</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/09/emperor-without-clothes-an-early-election-post/#comment-1033428</link>
		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>law school when Palin was winning beauty pageants and pumping out babies that she did care much for.  How long were her maternity leaves , a week?  Why bother have the baby if you are not going to be there to love and nurture it?

There is something so disconnected about her, I&#039;d swear she was made by the same  men who made the Stepford Robots if that wasn&#039;t fiction.  Women who can kill animals with a gun are just freakin&#039; scary.  

At least Hillary is open about her lust for power and her ambition.  Palin tries to make herself out to be a humble servant of the small town that needed her and then goes on to say her family has problems like all others...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>law school when Palin was winning beauty pageants and pumping out babies that she did care much for.  How long were her maternity leaves , a week?  Why bother have the baby if you are not going to be there to love and nurture it?</p>
<p>There is something so disconnected about her, I&#8217;d swear she was made by the same  men who made the Stepford Robots if that wasn&#8217;t fiction.  Women who can kill animals with a gun are just freakin&#8217; scary.  </p>
<p>At least Hillary is open about her lust for power and her ambition.  Palin tries to make herself out to be a humble servant of the small town that needed her and then goes on to say her family has problems like all others&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Morrissey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Morrissey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we&#039;ll see how that plays out in the campaign, as Obama&#039;s surrogates and fellow travelers have made your point.  More telling is Hillary Clinton&#039;s shrewd circumspection in criticizing Palin.  Whatever the merits of your point of view, the hypocrisy meter of many voters will go berserk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we&#8217;ll see how that plays out in the campaign, as Obama&#8217;s surrogates and fellow travelers have made your point.  More telling is Hillary Clinton&#8217;s shrewd circumspection in criticizing Palin.  Whatever the merits of your point of view, the hypocrisy meter of many voters will go berserk.</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/09/emperor-without-clothes-an-early-election-post/#comment-1032902</link>
		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For President, Vice President or Secretary of State...they can go right  ahead  a be pregnant and they should even be allowed to take the maximum Paternity/Maternity/Adoption leave permitted  other Federal Workers, BUT who is  going to  fill-in for these people when they are out?  Something to think about.

RFK had a spouse handling the children.  Working father&#039;s seeing very little of their children was the norm in his time.  In our generation new Father&#039;s take time off when a baby is born or adopted into their family.  They like to participate on an equal level.  And they LOVE suing for Child Support and Custody if their relationship fails.

 Palin&#039;s spouse can handle their  children and it&#039;s her CHOICE if she never sees them.   If that Down&#039;s baby need&#039;s heart surgery in the next 4 years as many of them do,  she will have to make a choice...be with the baby or help the President govern.  Voters  have to consider that, whether it sounds &quot;sexist&quot; or not.

Edwards made a choice to run for President rather than help take care of a very ill spouse.  I thought that was disgusting. It revealed the nature of his character at the time and he proved himself to be even more of a weasel later on.

When a job is at a level that is above the glass ceiling for both sexes, I would expect a women to put her job above baking cookies for the PTA  and  not  even think about taking  time off to go to every hockey game wearing lipstick.   WORKING MOTHERS in the U.S.  miss an awful lot of hockey games, ballet recitals, and PTA fundraisers because their bosses won&#039;t let them take time off.

I said it once and I&#039;ll say it again:  Feminism means giving a woman the CHOICE to do what she wants with her career, her family and her body.  Palin wants to limit women&#039;s choices with what they do with their body, that&#039;s bad enough.  I hope she aleast realizes that the County, not her children, come first if McCain.  

The 80&#039;s and 90&#039;s feminist proved that you CAN NOT have it all at the same time.  Something&#039;s gotta give.

As Jackie Kennedy said &quot;if you bungle raising your children, nothing else you do really matters&quot;...that is the feminist ideology of 2008 and of Jewish tradition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For President, Vice President or Secretary of State&#8230;they can go right  ahead  a be pregnant and they should even be allowed to take the maximum Paternity/Maternity/Adoption leave permitted  other Federal Workers, BUT who is  going to  fill-in for these people when they are out?  Something to think about.</p>
<p>RFK had a spouse handling the children.  Working father&#8217;s seeing very little of their children was the norm in his time.  In our generation new Father&#8217;s take time off when a baby is born or adopted into their family.  They like to participate on an equal level.  And they LOVE suing for Child Support and Custody if their relationship fails.</p>
<p> Palin&#8217;s spouse can handle their  children and it&#8217;s her CHOICE if she never sees them.   If that Down&#8217;s baby need&#8217;s heart surgery in the next 4 years as many of them do,  she will have to make a choice&#8230;be with the baby or help the President govern.  Voters  have to consider that, whether it sounds &#8220;sexist&#8221; or not.</p>
<p>Edwards made a choice to run for President rather than help take care of a very ill spouse.  I thought that was disgusting. It revealed the nature of his character at the time and he proved himself to be even more of a weasel later on.</p>
<p>When a job is at a level that is above the glass ceiling for both sexes, I would expect a women to put her job above baking cookies for the PTA  and  not  even think about taking  time off to go to every hockey game wearing lipstick.   WORKING MOTHERS in the U.S.  miss an awful lot of hockey games, ballet recitals, and PTA fundraisers because their bosses won&#8217;t let them take time off.</p>
<p>I said it once and I&#8217;ll say it again:  Feminism means giving a woman the CHOICE to do what she wants with her career, her family and her body.  Palin wants to limit women&#8217;s choices with what they do with their body, that&#8217;s bad enough.  I hope she aleast realizes that the County, not her children, come first if McCain.  </p>
<p>The 80&#8242;s and 90&#8242;s feminist proved that you CAN NOT have it all at the same time.  Something&#8217;s gotta give.</p>
<p>As Jackie Kennedy said &#8220;if you bungle raising your children, nothing else you do really matters&#8221;&#8230;that is the feminist ideology of 2008 and of Jewish tradition.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Morrissey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Morrissey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, chutzpah.  Under your approach the only women who&#039;ll qualify for high office are either post-menopausal (Hillary Clinton, Margaret Thatcher) or apparently lacking in sexuality (Condi Rice).  Everyone else stays at home, contenting themselves with the PTA.  This is what feminism fought for?  

And here&#039;s a goose/gander question for you:  when RFK ran for president, he had 10 children and a pregnant spouse.  Your analysis apply to him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, chutzpah.  Under your approach the only women who&#8217;ll qualify for high office are either post-menopausal (Hillary Clinton, Margaret Thatcher) or apparently lacking in sexuality (Condi Rice).  Everyone else stays at home, contenting themselves with the PTA.  This is what feminism fought for?  </p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a goose/gander question for you:  when RFK ran for president, he had 10 children and a pregnant spouse.  Your analysis apply to him?</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. Palin made the choice not to abort a special needs child.  Now she should do the responsible thing and devote 110% to making sure that  the child has all the love and care it needs from his MOTHER....not only from his father, siblings and ...please god no... a staff of White House Nannies.  She can&#039;t travel and negotiate overseas and be with that baby at the same time.  Impossible.
 
I wouldn&#039;t want any woman with an infant as V.P., much less  a woman with a special needs baby and a grandchild  from a teen daughter.

Palin is the antithesis of today&#039;s feminist role model.  Her message is &quot;you need a high-powered, high-profile career but don&#039;t enjoy sex or use birth control while trying to achieve that career unless you are married and  then make sure you get your figure back within 3 months post-partum&quot; YIKES! 

What happens when she&#039;s pregnant again? Is her  househusband going to get a vasectomy or are they just going to abstain?  
Talk about a nervous breakdown waiting to happen.  Only &quot;Superwoman&quot; could handle all that and we know that the Superwoman model of Feminism is soooo 1980&#039;s.

Any woman who is in the #1 or #2 most powerful position in the free world  during wartime better be damned ready to fulfill all the responsibilities of that position at the expense of her family.

  Palin does seem  ready to dump her family for that power...how sad for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Palin made the choice not to abort a special needs child.  Now she should do the responsible thing and devote 110% to making sure that  the child has all the love and care it needs from his MOTHER&#8230;.not only from his father, siblings and &#8230;please god no&#8230; a staff of White House Nannies.  She can&#8217;t travel and negotiate overseas and be with that baby at the same time.  Impossible.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want any woman with an infant as V.P., much less  a woman with a special needs baby and a grandchild  from a teen daughter.</p>
<p>Palin is the antithesis of today&#8217;s feminist role model.  Her message is &#8220;you need a high-powered, high-profile career but don&#8217;t enjoy sex or use birth control while trying to achieve that career unless you are married and  then make sure you get your figure back within 3 months post-partum&#8221; YIKES! </p>
<p>What happens when she&#8217;s pregnant again? Is her  househusband going to get a vasectomy or are they just going to abstain?<br />
Talk about a nervous breakdown waiting to happen.  Only &#8220;Superwoman&#8221; could handle all that and we know that the Superwoman model of Feminism is soooo 1980&#8242;s.</p>
<p>Any woman who is in the #1 or #2 most powerful position in the free world  during wartime better be damned ready to fulfill all the responsibilities of that position at the expense of her family.</p>
<p>  Palin does seem  ready to dump her family for that power&#8230;how sad for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/09/emperor-without-clothes-an-early-election-post/#comment-1032371</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And I f****** hate socialism and will never support entitlements and a looter mentality like Obama supports.&quot;

So I guess that means that you think entitlements to Chareidim and funding for their schools in Israel should be done away with?  Because that&#039;s socialism, too.  Oh, the hypocrisy!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And I f****** hate socialism and will never support entitlements and a looter mentality like Obama supports.&#8221;</p>
<p>So I guess that means that you think entitlements to Chareidim and funding for their schools in Israel should be done away with?  Because that&#8217;s socialism, too.  Oh, the hypocrisy!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/09/emperor-without-clothes-an-early-election-post/#comment-1031963</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MUL,

The most important thing for me is that Republicans understand keeping markets free and taxing businesses and people as little as possible, since they aren&#039;t nanny-staters like your precious Democrats/socialists.  And I f****** hate socialism and will never support entitlements and a looter mentality like Obama supports.  The world is full of two kinds of people: producers and looters.  Your party is for the looters.  It&#039;s really that plain and simple, believe it or not.  You can take Elizabeth Hasslebeck with you.  The republicans don&#039;t need her.  The other idiots on the show, are a perfect example of the leftist brainwashed mentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MUL,</p>
<p>The most important thing for me is that Republicans understand keeping markets free and taxing businesses and people as little as possible, since they aren&#8217;t nanny-staters like your precious Democrats/socialists.  And I f****** hate socialism and will never support entitlements and a looter mentality like Obama supports.  The world is full of two kinds of people: producers and looters.  Your party is for the looters.  It&#8217;s really that plain and simple, believe it or not.  You can take Elizabeth Hasslebeck with you.  The republicans don&#8217;t need her.  The other idiots on the show, are a perfect example of the leftist brainwashed mentality.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

It seems your definition of &quot;blatant anti-semitism&quot; or at least your tolerance of it is dependent upon the side of the political spectrum spewing it.  It was a guest speaker by the way, from Jews for Jesus that said that, not her preacher, and while despicable and anti-semitic, it&#039;s standard fare for the Messianic crowd.  The difference is, evangelicals goal is for Jews to become Christians, while Barack&#039;s church welcomed Farakhan with open arms, and as you know, the Nation of Islam wants us dead.  So if you want to start measuring evil or even intentions for that matter, I&#039;d be much obliged to make a matrix comparing the two tickets, heck, the two parties for that matter.  I&#039;ll trade you a Pat Robertson for a Cynthia McKinney, Robert Bird, Wesley Clark, Jesse Jackson, Sharpton, etc., any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>It seems your definition of &#8220;blatant anti-semitism&#8221; or at least your tolerance of it is dependent upon the side of the political spectrum spewing it.  It was a guest speaker by the way, from Jews for Jesus that said that, not her preacher, and while despicable and anti-semitic, it&#8217;s standard fare for the Messianic crowd.  The difference is, evangelicals goal is for Jews to become Christians, while Barack&#8217;s church welcomed Farakhan with open arms, and as you know, the Nation of Islam wants us dead.  So if you want to start measuring evil or even intentions for that matter, I&#8217;d be much obliged to make a matrix comparing the two tickets, heck, the two parties for that matter.  I&#8217;ll trade you a Pat Robertson for a Cynthia McKinney, Robert Bird, Wesley Clark, Jesse Jackson, Sharpton, etc., any day.</p>
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		<title>By: montana_urban_legend</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/09/emperor-without-clothes-an-early-election-post/#comment-1031930</link>
		<dc:creator>montana_urban_legend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I wouldn&#039;t like to do that. But neither do I see what point it would serve. If Palin had said that &quot;Obama has written less legislation than John McCain&quot; then there would be a point to doing that, but I wouldn&#039;t have contested it anyway - because that&#039;s actually an accurate statement. Saying that Obama hasn&#039;t written any legislation is false and slanderous and not in the spirit of anything other than to perpetuate those false and slanderous impressions that have been floating around since the beginning of the primaries. If she meant to say something different, then she could have said something different in that &quot;spirit&quot;. I honestly don&#039;t see why you are trying to put words in her mouth for her, and for you to feel you should do so really only demonstrates her own lack of credibility rather than saying anything substantive about Barack Obama&#039;s legislative experience. 

McCain&#039;s choice of Palin completely marginalizes him on the experience meme. If experience is important, than a 72-year old nominee would have chosen someone with it to run with him. End of story. And that&#039;s exactly the way the narrative is running right now. 

As for &quot;outflanking&quot; Obama on change, as I said, his speech made a valiant effort to try to do that, but we&#039;ll see if it sticks. For now, it&#039;s just an attempt, nothing more. McCain&#039;s previous history of bucking party-line ideology says a lot. But it says even more that for now he has decided to throw that reputation away and capitulated to the Talibangelicals with his VP selection. As does voting with Bush the overwhelming majority of the time. 

I honestly don&#039;t see why you seem so intent on taking everything the McCain campaign throws out there at face value, Middle. More conservative intellectuals have taken him to task and criticized (&lt;i&gt;the WISDOM! of&lt;/i&gt;) his choices at this point than you would have us believe. Does it have to do with some soft spot you have for Palin and her religious creds? Do you feel intimidated by her standing on those things? Does it have to do with Obama getting some kind of well-deserved comeuppance? I&#039;m just trying to understand where you&#039;re coming from...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I wouldn&#8217;t like to do that. But neither do I see what point it would serve. If Palin had said that &#8220;Obama has written less legislation than John McCain&#8221; then there would be a point to doing that, but I wouldn&#8217;t have contested it anyway &#8211; because that&#8217;s actually an accurate statement. Saying that Obama hasn&#8217;t written any legislation is false and slanderous and not in the spirit of anything other than to perpetuate those false and slanderous impressions that have been floating around since the beginning of the primaries. If she meant to say something different, then she could have said something different in that &#8220;spirit&#8221;. I honestly don&#8217;t see why you are trying to put words in her mouth for her, and for you to feel you should do so really only demonstrates her own lack of credibility rather than saying anything substantive about Barack Obama&#8217;s legislative experience. </p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s choice of Palin completely marginalizes him on the experience meme. If experience is important, than a 72-year old nominee would have chosen someone with it to run with him. End of story. And that&#8217;s exactly the way the narrative is running right now. </p>
<p>As for &#8220;outflanking&#8221; Obama on change, as I said, his speech made a valiant effort to try to do that, but we&#8217;ll see if it sticks. For now, it&#8217;s just an attempt, nothing more. McCain&#8217;s previous history of bucking party-line ideology says a lot. But it says even more that for now he has decided to throw that reputation away and capitulated to the Talibangelicals with his VP selection. As does voting with Bush the overwhelming majority of the time. </p>
<p>I honestly don&#8217;t see why you seem so intent on taking everything the McCain campaign throws out there at face value, Middle. More conservative intellectuals have taken him to task and criticized (<i>the WISDOM! of</i>) his choices at this point than you would have us believe. Does it have to do with some soft spot you have for Palin and her religious creds? Do you feel intimidated by her standing on those things? Does it have to do with Obama getting some kind of well-deserved comeuppance? I&#8217;m just trying to understand where you&#8217;re coming from&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, the point is that it&#039;s Obama&#039;s race to lose but McCain is a smart tactician, the Republicans are good at these campaigns and the Democrats may have opened a door which should not have opened. They did the same with Kerry.

MUL, I actually had a bunch of voting stats ready for you, but I think Blip makes the point briefly and succinctly. Stop focusing on the detail of the accusation and try to understand the spirit. McCain has taken Obama and outflanked him on &quot;change&quot; and &quot;experience.&quot; Obama may have co-authored a couple of laws, but would you like to compare how many laws McCain has written, never mind proposed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, the point is that it&#8217;s Obama&#8217;s race to lose but McCain is a smart tactician, the Republicans are good at these campaigns and the Democrats may have opened a door which should not have opened. They did the same with Kerry.</p>
<p>MUL, I actually had a bunch of voting stats ready for you, but I think Blip makes the point briefly and succinctly. Stop focusing on the detail of the accusation and try to understand the spirit. McCain has taken Obama and outflanked him on &#8220;change&#8221; and &#8220;experience.&#8221; Obama may have co-authored a couple of laws, but would you like to compare how many laws McCain has written, never mind proposed?</p>
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		<title>By: montana_urban_legend</title>
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		<dc:creator>montana_urban_legend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toles vs. Cox &amp; Forkum, Maher versus Dennis Miller, O&#039;Donnell versus the waif on The View, Barbara Bush versus Roseanne Barr... ad infinitum. Is there anything under the sun that you don&#039;t slice and dice into your infantile &quot;us versus them&quot; worldview? 

Well, you can bash a political cartoonist all you want, Alex. But you don&#039;t seem very capable of bashing the fact that The Republicans are so bereft of any of their own ideas to articulate for America&#039;s woes (other than war, religion and nationalism as The Answer to all things for all time) that they stole every line in the book from the Democrats. Which was exactly the message in the cartoon. You&#039;re just upset because it illustrates that they don&#039;t  have any credibility because of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toles vs. Cox &amp; Forkum, Maher versus Dennis Miller, O&#8217;Donnell versus the waif on The View, Barbara Bush versus Roseanne Barr&#8230; ad infinitum. Is there anything under the sun that you don&#8217;t slice and dice into your infantile &#8220;us versus them&#8221; worldview? </p>
<p>Well, you can bash a political cartoonist all you want, Alex. But you don&#8217;t seem very capable of bashing the fact that The Republicans are so bereft of any of their own ideas to articulate for America&#8217;s woes (other than war, religion and nationalism as The Answer to all things for all time) that they stole every line in the book from the Democrats. Which was exactly the message in the cartoon. You&#8217;re just upset because it illustrates that they don&#8217;t  have any credibility because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you&#039;re missing is that while the national polling shows a tight race, the internals are no where near close. Remember Al Gore? He got more of the popular vote and still lost, Obama is pulling slightly more popular vote, but way more electorals. At this point McSame needs a bit of a miracle to win because O/B is down like 20% in the electoral college. Obama is trending to 300+ while only need 261 to win. 

Granted I&#039;m not a huge O fan, I actually worked for Hillary, but he&#039;s growing on me, while McCain&#039;s continued pandering to the super evangelicals frightens me more each day. 

While the Rev. Wright issues bugged me, don&#039;t forget that Palin said nothing while a preacher at her church stated terrorism in Isreal is  punishment for Jews continuing to refuse the truth that Jesus is their Messiah. While O wasn&#039;t even present for Wright&#039;s crazy comments, Palin was in the front row and it was only a few weeks ago...

Maybe McCain didn&#039;t know she was at the very least accepting of blatant anti-semitism, or maybe he did knew that would help with the right wing he had issues with. Either way, too scary for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you&#8217;re missing is that while the national polling shows a tight race, the internals are no where near close. Remember Al Gore? He got more of the popular vote and still lost, Obama is pulling slightly more popular vote, but way more electorals. At this point McSame needs a bit of a miracle to win because O/B is down like 20% in the electoral college. Obama is trending to 300+ while only need 261 to win. </p>
<p>Granted I&#8217;m not a huge O fan, I actually worked for Hillary, but he&#8217;s growing on me, while McCain&#8217;s continued pandering to the super evangelicals frightens me more each day. </p>
<p>While the Rev. Wright issues bugged me, don&#8217;t forget that Palin said nothing while a preacher at her church stated terrorism in Isreal is  punishment for Jews continuing to refuse the truth that Jesus is their Messiah. While O wasn&#8217;t even present for Wright&#8217;s crazy comments, Palin was in the front row and it was only a few weeks ago&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe McCain didn&#8217;t know she was at the very least accepting of blatant anti-semitism, or maybe he did knew that would help with the right wing he had issues with. Either way, too scary for me.</p>
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