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	<title>Comments on: The Price of Kosher Meat May Go Up for Reasons Not Related to High Gas Prices</title>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry...5 was damn good...I will be using that one ...thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry&#8230;5 was damn good&#8230;I will be using that one &#8230;thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn, can&#039;t help myself with the nasty sarcasm on this topic...give me a different one...I&#039;ll try to be sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn, can&#8217;t help myself with the nasty sarcasm on this topic&#8230;give me a different one&#8230;I&#8217;ll try to be sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does my children&#039;s evil Stepmother feed them?
White pasta.  White pasta with ketchup.  White pasta with salt and butter cooked by her obese 11 year old  daughter who she is teaching to be a &quot;bala busta&quot;  (translation: ballbuster)

This is her version of being an American peasant. In Ireland, where she was brought up as 7 of 9 Orthodox children, she probably ate white potatoes.  white potatoes with salt and butter and may white potatoes with a sliver of meat on Shabbat.

 But hey, at least she is keeping glatt kosher when she screams at  my children for taking  pretzels from the pantry without asking  because she has to keep &quot;inventory&quot; on the food or goes   yells  if they fail to mumble a bracha on their salty  processed  white flour.   

Ahhh, spirituality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does my children&#8217;s evil Stepmother feed them?<br />
White pasta.  White pasta with ketchup.  White pasta with salt and butter cooked by her obese 11 year old  daughter who she is teaching to be a &#8220;bala busta&#8221;  (translation: ballbuster)</p>
<p>This is her version of being an American peasant. In Ireland, where she was brought up as 7 of 9 Orthodox children, she probably ate white potatoes.  white potatoes with salt and butter and may white potatoes with a sliver of meat on Shabbat.</p>
<p> But hey, at least she is keeping glatt kosher when she screams at  my children for taking  pretzels from the pantry without asking  because she has to keep &#8220;inventory&#8221; on the food or goes   yells  if they fail to mumble a bracha on their salty  processed  white flour.   </p>
<p>Ahhh, spirituality.</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2008/09/the-price-of-kosher-meat-may-go-up-for-reasons-not-related-to-high-gas-prices/#comment-1036779</link>
		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kari....dear sweet Kari,  obviously you are not running a home of 6 or more children,with  at least of whom  has special needs, and paying Yeshiva tuition for all of them.  Thank God I&#039;m not either , but many  people I know in my little village  do fit that profile.  

The reason that cholent became the classic dish of Orthodox Jews is because they were poor peasants who could not afford to eat meat, so they saved it for Shabbat and strectched it as much as possible with beans and potatoes.  Every culture has it&#039;s  iconic peasant foods that are delicious and stretch the expensive meat so that everyone can have a sliver.

The reason I choose not to buy Kosher meat, much less Organic Kosher meat, is because I prefer not to life like a peasant.  

This is 2008.  The evil management at Wal-Mart has the ability to provide my family with sanitary, heavily regulated meat at low prices.  They exploit their workers within the letter of the law of the land.    

Therefore,  I shop within the budget of a single working mother with 3 children who pays child support to her loser of an Ex-husband,  to provide my offspring with the most nutritious and least expensive food I can without blatantly disregarding the freedoms of capitalism and democracy we are privileged to have in the U.S.

Spirituality is free.  Organic Kosher chop meat is $7.00 a pound.
Keeping Kosher  is a right and privilege of the rich, for all the rest of the schleppers spirituality has to take a backseat to living.  For me being spiritual includes tryng to be a good citizen of my State and Country.  Many in my little village prefer welfare fraud, IRS fraud and yes, to eat the products of 9000 child labor violations in the name of spirituality.  Makes no sense to me, but hey, neither does having a baby and going back to work the next day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kari&#8230;.dear sweet Kari,  obviously you are not running a home of 6 or more children,with  at least of whom  has special needs, and paying Yeshiva tuition for all of them.  Thank God I&#8217;m not either , but many  people I know in my little village  do fit that profile.  </p>
<p>The reason that cholent became the classic dish of Orthodox Jews is because they were poor peasants who could not afford to eat meat, so they saved it for Shabbat and strectched it as much as possible with beans and potatoes.  Every culture has it&#8217;s  iconic peasant foods that are delicious and stretch the expensive meat so that everyone can have a sliver.</p>
<p>The reason I choose not to buy Kosher meat, much less Organic Kosher meat, is because I prefer not to life like a peasant.  </p>
<p>This is 2008.  The evil management at Wal-Mart has the ability to provide my family with sanitary, heavily regulated meat at low prices.  They exploit their workers within the letter of the law of the land.    </p>
<p>Therefore,  I shop within the budget of a single working mother with 3 children who pays child support to her loser of an Ex-husband,  to provide my offspring with the most nutritious and least expensive food I can without blatantly disregarding the freedoms of capitalism and democracy we are privileged to have in the U.S.</p>
<p>Spirituality is free.  Organic Kosher chop meat is $7.00 a pound.<br />
Keeping Kosher  is a right and privilege of the rich, for all the rest of the schleppers spirituality has to take a backseat to living.  For me being spiritual includes tryng to be a good citizen of my State and Country.  Many in my little village prefer welfare fraud, IRS fraud and yes, to eat the products of 9000 child labor violations in the name of spirituality.  Makes no sense to me, but hey, neither does having a baby and going back to work the next day.</p>
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		<title>By: Kari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chutzpah: The laws can help your spirituality... if its your thing. Observance should always  be on the basis of personal preference and desire, not on perceived obligation or requirement.

In any case, they make organic kosher meat; why not buy that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chutzpah: The laws can help your spirituality&#8230; if its your thing. Observance should always  be on the basis of personal preference and desire, not on perceived obligation or requirement.</p>
<p>In any case, they make organic kosher meat; why not buy that?</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right Kari....they had that &quot;but the money pays for Yeshiva scholarships&quot; heter.    Ah, the banality of evil.

Sometimes it&#039;s time to say &quot;these laws are not helping our culture evolve spirituality&quot; but I guess I&#039;m the only one saying that...anyone?  JTS?  Reconstructionists? Anyone? Secular Jews?  

So what hechsers of kosher meat are going to be available in this Country&#039;s Jails?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right Kari&#8230;.they had that &#8220;but the money pays for Yeshiva scholarships&#8221; heter.    Ah, the banality of evil.</p>
<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s time to say &#8220;these laws are not helping our culture evolve spirituality&#8221; but I guess I&#8217;m the only one saying that&#8230;anyone?  JTS?  Reconstructionists? Anyone? Secular Jews?  </p>
<p>So what hechsers of kosher meat are going to be available in this Country&#8217;s Jails?</p>
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		<title>By: larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breaking News...   OU says they will withdraw the OU certification on Agriprocessors unless the management is totally changed ......  and unless several pounds of chickens and beef are delivered to their doorsteps in time for Rosh Hashana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breaking News&#8230;   OU says they will withdraw the OU certification on Agriprocessors unless the management is totally changed &#8230;&#8230;  and unless several pounds of chickens and beef are delivered to their doorsteps in time for Rosh Hashana</p>
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		<title>By: Kari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chutzpah: Meh. Don&#039;t blame the laws, blame the people. It&#039;s entirely possible to follow the laws while still being heartless, cruel and downright sinister.

That said, Agriprocessors didn&#039;t even follow Torah anyway; following the laws of the land is required, and clearly the Rubashkins didn&#039;t follow that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chutzpah: Meh. Don&#8217;t blame the laws, blame the people. It&#8217;s entirely possible to follow the laws while still being heartless, cruel and downright sinister.</p>
<p>That said, Agriprocessors didn&#8217;t even follow Torah anyway; following the laws of the land is required, and clearly the Rubashkins didn&#8217;t follow that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I just ask one  serious question:  doesn&#039;t all this garbage coming out of the Orthodox community make anybody else in addition to  me want to throw out/modify/reform their own Orthodox lifestyle?  I feel like the teacher in Ferris Bueler&#039;s Day Off:  Anyone? Anyone?

I know the answer is &quot;it&#039;s the people, not the laws&quot;...but if the laws aren&#039;t making better people, what the hell are they for? Anyone?  Just to torture us? Anyone?  Because being Ortho is not...anyone?  easy or anyone? Fun...  or anyone? Inexpensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just ask one  serious question:  doesn&#8217;t all this garbage coming out of the Orthodox community make anybody else in addition to  me want to throw out/modify/reform their own Orthodox lifestyle?  I feel like the teacher in Ferris Bueler&#8217;s Day Off:  Anyone? Anyone?</p>
<p>I know the answer is &#8220;it&#8217;s the people, not the laws&#8221;&#8230;but if the laws aren&#8217;t making better people, what the hell are they for? Anyone?  Just to torture us? Anyone?  Because being Ortho is not&#8230;anyone?  easy or anyone? Fun&#8230;  or anyone? Inexpensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t know who gave the heter, but if it was the OU, then they&#039;re doing an about-face by threatening to revoke kashrut status within 2 weeks if management isn&#039;t overhauled, starting with Sholom Rubashkin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know who gave the heter, but if it was the OU, then they&#8217;re doing an about-face by threatening to revoke kashrut status within 2 weeks if management isn&#8217;t overhauled, starting with Sholom Rubashkin.</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone must have given them a heter not observe the laws of the land.  My landlord and most of the people in Plifton got the same heter.   

I am really going to try to have this be the last nasty sarcastic remark I make between now and Yom Kippur because all this self-hatred is killing me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone must have given them a heter not observe the laws of the land.  My landlord and most of the people in Plifton got the same heter.   </p>
<p>I am really going to try to have this be the last nasty sarcastic remark I make between now and Yom Kippur because all this self-hatred is killing me.</p>
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