Comments on: Homosexuals are Pedophiles: Catholic Church Fucks Up. Again.

By: Keith

Keith — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 21:08:13 +0000

That article has cheered me up no end! It thrills me that logic and reason are placed above what the church says is true. I am a reared catholic but despise the church. Just yesterday, the bishop here, bishop smith in Ireland said at mass, i quote “science is about killing people, and christmas is not about science”. What a clever bunch.

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By: froylein

froylein — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:21:30 +0000

Not sure, Tom, but looks like we are identical twins.

Nice new design, ck.

By: Tom Morrissey

Tom Morrissey — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:48:03 +0000

Hey, where did you guys get that picture of me– from my uncle, Caspar the Friendly Ghost?

By: froylein

froylein — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:10:07 +0000

jc., Catholicism is not like Evangelicalism, Methodism, Pentecostalism etc. in that regard.

By: jc.

jc. — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:00:16 +0000

I´m sure that we can trust the catholic church to handle this in an effective and enlightened manner, after all jesus speaks to them.

By: Sarah

Sarah — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:56:39 +0000

Agreed. Thanks, ck.

By: Tom Morrissey

Tom Morrissey — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:28:28 +0000

Well, not so fast. Historically, the priesthood has served as a kind of refuge for gay men, especially those who view their orientation as sinful and seek to atone for it or conceal it, from themselves and others. The hierarchy is trying to get ssminaries to examine candidates for their degree of sexual maturity. I wouldn’t attribute this policy to pedophilia, though I’m sure they think (perhaps wrongly) that pedophiles can be readily identified and excluded.

Priests have told me that seminaries historically ignore sexuality and fail to address the consequences of the vow of celibacy. So while this may be a heavy-handed way of going about it, the church is trying to address these issues and screen out men who are signing up for the wrong reasons.

By: froylein

froylein — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:17:17 +0000

To some extent, particular Orthodox communities have acted worse by letting a child abuser escape to Israel. There was a huge list of comments by now adult Chasidim on the Chaptzem blog a while ago that reported having been molested in yeshiva or whose sisters had even been impregnated by sexual offenders in seminary. The offenders were known to their superiors, yet little if anything was done to change the situation; apparently in many cases the superiors even covered the behinds of the offenders. And therein lies the difference between the cases in the yeshiva and the Catholic world, i.e. that during his primacy, while he was / is deemed more amiable than his successor by many, John Paul II believed pedophile priests would repent and make up for their sins, worst case they retreated or were removed to monasteries; there were bishops that had violated / neglected their responsibilty of supervision / control, but there was no episcopal whitewashing. Noteworthily, Benedict XVI insisted on pedophile priests subjecting themselves to the secular law of the land they reside in as they committed a secular crime, which usually means imprisonment. BTW, the German association of homosexuals issued a statement years ago in which they distanced themselves from pedophiles but also admitted that indeed many pedophiles pose as homosexuals or deem their inclinations to be homosexual and dwell among their midst. The criminals are the offenders and their enablers, not the religions / denominations per se.