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		<title>By: froylein</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1178090</link>
		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muffti!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muffti!</p>
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		<title>By: Grand Muffti</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1178073</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand Muffti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muffti can&#039;t make it unfortunately - a very close friend of his is giving a lecture that weekend at Muffti&#039;s department and staying the weekend (it was schedule before Muffti knew the planned dates for the jewlicious festival). It certainly was a fun time - last time muffti stayed continually buzzed on account of sneaking beers with Kelsey from about 2pm onwards :) Maybe next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muffti can&#8217;t make it unfortunately &#8211; a very close friend of his is giving a lecture that weekend at Muffti&#8217;s department and staying the weekend (it was schedule before Muffti knew the planned dates for the jewlicious festival). It certainly was a fun time &#8211; last time muffti stayed continually buzzed on account of sneaking beers with Kelsey from about 2pm onwards <img src='http://www.jewlicious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Maybe next year.</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1177902</link>
		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oy, LoBiCh...

Anyhow, as far as Muffti once told me, most people he encountered at the Festival were drawn by Rabbi Yonah&#039;s outstanding community / outreach work and hardly, if at all, follow the blog. I&#039;m not sure how many of the bloggers will be attending; I know CK and Lisa will be there as well as Erez, Y-Love and Rabbi Yonah. I suspect Aaron might be there as he doesn&#039;t live far off, and Muffti could drop by to meet up with old friends. I don&#039;t know about the others. As far as I&#039;m concerned, work will keep me from travelling then, plus if I had any intention of making known to the general public what I look like, there&#039;d be an actual picture of me online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oy, LoBiCh&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyhow, as far as Muffti once told me, most people he encountered at the Festival were drawn by Rabbi Yonah&#8217;s outstanding community / outreach work and hardly, if at all, follow the blog. I&#8217;m not sure how many of the bloggers will be attending; I know CK and Lisa will be there as well as Erez, Y-Love and Rabbi Yonah. I suspect Aaron might be there as he doesn&#8217;t live far off, and Muffti could drop by to meet up with old friends. I don&#8217;t know about the others. As far as I&#8217;m concerned, work will keep me from travelling then, plus if I had any intention of making known to the general public what I look like, there&#8217;d be an actual picture of me online.</p>
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		<title>By: Long Beach Chasid</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1177075</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Beach Chasid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chutzpah you must be joking. Pardon my ASSumption but i thought since you are so active on this website that you participate in the Jewlicious Festival. Dave doesnt have a problem with me here, so your opinion means as much as that puddle I stepped in when I walking into my apt. complex. 

Oh please dont lash out at me. Im so sheltered worrying about the klippahs all around that I might not know how to defend myself.

Or maybe I just think you are a cup full of _____ and have heavy fingers on the internet. 

Now.
Geh Kak afen yam, and shalom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chutzpah you must be joking. Pardon my ASSumption but i thought since you are so active on this website that you participate in the Jewlicious Festival. Dave doesnt have a problem with me here, so your opinion means as much as that puddle I stepped in when I walking into my apt. complex. </p>
<p>Oh please dont lash out at me. Im so sheltered worrying about the klippahs all around that I might not know how to defend myself.</p>
<p>Or maybe I just think you are a cup full of _____ and have heavy fingers on the internet. </p>
<p>Now.<br />
Geh Kak afen yam, and shalom.</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1176107</link>
		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely. I hope to be there for my b&#039;day. We&#039;ll be having great fun. Goyishe guys are better dancers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely. I hope to be there for my b&#8217;day. We&#8217;ll be having great fun. Goyishe guys are better dancers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1176096</link>
		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;ll pass on that invitation Froylein, but hope you and I will connect the next time you are in the States.  We&#039;ll go in search of &quot;goyishe flings&quot; as you like to call them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ll pass on that invitation Froylein, but hope you and I will connect the next time you are in the States.  We&#8217;ll go in search of &#8220;goyishe flings&#8221; as you like to call them.</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
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		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chutzpale, that&#039;s why I suggested that if he wants to meet, Kelsey will be there as well. ;)

I&#039;ll bring a long list of Chasidishe rabbis that use the internet for fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chutzpale, that&#8217;s why I suggested that if he wants to meet, Kelsey will be there as well. <img src='http://www.jewlicious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bring a long list of Chasidishe rabbis that use the internet for fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1175393</link>
		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Ya know,  &quot;paskudnyak&quot; is a great word, but MOTHERFUCKER is still my favorite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Ya know,  &#8220;paskudnyak&#8221; is a great word, but MOTHERFUCKER is still my favorite.</p>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1175384</link>
		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HELP!  This guy is throwing Big Aish stories at me!  Somebody stop him before I really lash out!!!

AND THEN HE TRIES TO HIT ME UP FOR A PERSONAL MEETING!

I&#039;m warning you Chasid,  I am a worse bitch in person and I&#039;ll wear my malfunctioning blouse that I met Froylein in and you&#039;ll have to spend the rest of your life in the mikvah to cleanse yourself from all the impure thoughts I&#039;ll cause you think.

Dude,  get off this blog and go back to Beit Midrash.  THIS BLOG IS ASSUR FOR YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HELP!  This guy is throwing Big Aish stories at me!  Somebody stop him before I really lash out!!!</p>
<p>AND THEN HE TRIES TO HIT ME UP FOR A PERSONAL MEETING!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m warning you Chasid,  I am a worse bitch in person and I&#8217;ll wear my malfunctioning blouse that I met Froylein in and you&#8217;ll have to spend the rest of your life in the mikvah to cleanse yourself from all the impure thoughts I&#8217;ll cause you think.</p>
<p>Dude,  get off this blog and go back to Beit Midrash.  THIS BLOG IS ASSUR FOR YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Morrissey</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1175040</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Morrissey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why isn&#039;t Madoff in jail, GAH?: &quot;No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.&quot;  US Const., 14th Amendment, Sec. 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why isn&#8217;t Madoff in jail, GAH?: &#8220;No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.&#8221;  US Const., 14th Amendment, Sec. 1.</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1174842</link>
		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LoBiCh, no can do as my next break starts on 1st April. If you happen to be in NYC then, we &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kvetcher.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;all&lt;/a&gt; may meet for some kosher food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LoBiCh, no can do as my next break starts on 1st April. If you happen to be in NYC then, we <a href="http://www.kvetcher.net" rel="nofollow">all</a> may meet for some kosher food.</p>
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		<title>By: Ephraim</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1174829</link>
		<dc:creator>Ephraim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFAIK, &quot;paskudnyak&quot; is Yiddish via Russian/Slavic. 

People who know more Yiddish than I do (and by that I mean people who actually know Yiddish) can correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but it is my understanding that &quot;paskudne&quot; refers to state of thoroughgoing moral corruption, and a &quot;paskudnyak&quot; is a person who embodies those qualities. Most Yiddish insults have a certain playful side to them, but paskudnyak is a term of utter opprobrium. A paskudnyak is a moral degernate, a filthy, disgusting, slimy lowlife with no redeeming characteristics. 

It is, therefore, pretty much the ultimate Yiddish insult if you really, really hate someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFAIK, &#8220;paskudnyak&#8221; is Yiddish via Russian/Slavic. </p>
<p>People who know more Yiddish than I do (and by that I mean people who actually know Yiddish) can correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but it is my understanding that &#8220;paskudne&#8221; refers to state of thoroughgoing moral corruption, and a &#8220;paskudnyak&#8221; is a person who embodies those qualities. Most Yiddish insults have a certain playful side to them, but paskudnyak is a term of utter opprobrium. A paskudnyak is a moral degernate, a filthy, disgusting, slimy lowlife with no redeeming characteristics. </p>
<p>It is, therefore, pretty much the ultimate Yiddish insult if you really, really hate someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Long Beach Chasid</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1174827</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Beach Chasid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chutzpah. Im not going to argue with you. It is evident that you find yourself to be an expert in Halacha and what they teach in Seminary. 

Odds are I pray everday I could be a Baal Teshuva. I am a Master of nothing.

An Aish HaTorah student who became religious later in life once went to the Ger Rebbe and the Rebbe asked where he learns he said &quot;I learn at Aish but dont worry, Im not a Baal Teshuva.&quot; The Ger Rebbe asked him &quot;And why not?!&quot;


A Baal Teshuva isnt just someone who became religious later in life which I assume you are using the term in a condescending manner. As for my mother she is Frum and I pay for my own Torah learning

It would be so interesting to have this discussion in person as I feel you arent all such huge ________ as you are on the internet.

Hope to see you all at Jewlicious Festival!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chutzpah. Im not going to argue with you. It is evident that you find yourself to be an expert in Halacha and what they teach in Seminary. </p>
<p>Odds are I pray everday I could be a Baal Teshuva. I am a Master of nothing.</p>
<p>An Aish HaTorah student who became religious later in life once went to the Ger Rebbe and the Rebbe asked where he learns he said &#8220;I learn at Aish but dont worry, Im not a Baal Teshuva.&#8221; The Ger Rebbe asked him &#8220;And why not?!&#8221;</p>
<p>A Baal Teshuva isnt just someone who became religious later in life which I assume you are using the term in a condescending manner. As for my mother she is Frum and I pay for my own Torah learning</p>
<p>It would be so interesting to have this discussion in person as I feel you arent all such huge ________ as you are on the internet.</p>
<p>Hope to see you all at Jewlicious Festival!!!</p>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1174823</link>
		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long Beach chasid the world wide advertising and media companies are dominated by jews and fundamentalist christians

funny isnt it, you think they are immoral yet they are israels biggest supporters, hmmm

lets see, fox news,hollywood,media all contribute HEAVILY to the jewish funds and israel, so Long Beach Chasid your jewish community influence and wealth depends on your marketing of sleaze, you jews have a history of marketing sleaze, like the story of esther,lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long Beach chasid the world wide advertising and media companies are dominated by jews and fundamentalist christians</p>
<p>funny isnt it, you think they are immoral yet they are israels biggest supporters, hmmm</p>
<p>lets see, fox news,hollywood,media all contribute HEAVILY to the jewish funds and israel, so Long Beach Chasid your jewish community influence and wealth depends on your marketing of sleaze, you jews have a history of marketing sleaze, like the story of esther,lol.</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1174811</link>
		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish that guy would take a few classes on Islam.</description>
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		<title>By: Chutzpah</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/01/haredi-dollars-convince-el-al/#comment-1174808</link>
		<dc:creator>Chutzpah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so full of crap Long Beach.  The only time Orthos are not criticizing non-observant tribe members is when they are trying to schnor money off of them to support their institutions. 

As for discussions, Orthodox women are not well-versed in topics other than the status of their uterus, sheitels, kids, and where to find good non-Jewish help.  


The only people who use words like &quot;slut&quot; are misogynists. Non-misogynists don&#039;t mind if a woman is enjoying her own sense of style or lack thereof, that is her choice and she is lucky to exercise her freedom of choice.  Orthodox women do not enjoy that freedom.

As for the pre-med cheerleader, she cute and smart.  Good for her.

Ad for how much you love your own mother, odds are you are a bal tshuva and are making fun of her except when she&#039;s giving you money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so full of crap Long Beach.  The only time Orthos are not criticizing non-observant tribe members is when they are trying to schnor money off of them to support their institutions. </p>
<p>As for discussions, Orthodox women are not well-versed in topics other than the status of their uterus, sheitels, kids, and where to find good non-Jewish help.  </p>
<p>The only people who use words like &#8220;slut&#8221; are misogynists. Non-misogynists don&#8217;t mind if a woman is enjoying her own sense of style or lack thereof, that is her choice and she is lucky to exercise her freedom of choice.  Orthodox women do not enjoy that freedom.</p>
<p>As for the pre-med cheerleader, she cute and smart.  Good for her.</p>
<p>Ad for how much you love your own mother, odds are you are a bal tshuva and are making fun of her except when she&#8217;s giving you money.</p>
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		<title>By: goyim are human</title>
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		<dc:creator>goyim are human</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tom morrisay only one guy was known to have thrown acid on womans face, and he is currently an american ally, yup you guessed it, he is an afghan warlord,and the americans call him a friend,because he is not a member of the taliban.
but considering the fact that a jew was guilty of murdering his own daughter and granddaughter(yes i am talking about the guy who killed the french jewish girl rose pizem), every society has its monsters.

even in saudi arabia women can show their face, its pretty stupid to stereotype arabs as all backwards , its like saying all jewish people are greedy money hungry economy destroying bankers who ruin the countries they stay in, sort of like pre ww1 and ww2 germany and today america is in a financial collapse, thanks to people like bernard madoff.

in america there is a lot of anger against jews thanks to the collapse of lehman brothers,bear stern,madoff scandall,this time you really are guilty arent you,you know what maybe its good to be a backward arab stuck in the desert rather than a jew in america, especially when the shit hits the fan eh.

and one more thing, america is borrowing money from poorer countries to survive, how fucking lame is that, what kind of assholes borrow money from the poor??

china is poorer than america but america borrows daily 2 billion dollars from the chinese, so go figure.

at least the oil arabs sell is their own, while fat americans  borrow money to lead a good life style.

as for abuse of woman, let me ask you tom morrisay, are you saying the orthodox jews dont attack immodest women???

do you guys want me to post articles where jews have attacked woman for not wearing the right clothes?

and  i find it shameful that men are threatened by confident women, the first muslim women actually fought on the battlefield against armies, but you jews have the story of esther who prostituted herself to a persian king, and its in your torah and you even celebrate it,lol.

one more thing, can anyone please explain it to me why bernard madoff isnt in jail yet, or is america so blind to your crimes that you can do anything you want and ruin their lives and waste their money.(do i need to mention jewish bear stern and lehman brothers executives)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tom morrisay only one guy was known to have thrown acid on womans face, and he is currently an american ally, yup you guessed it, he is an afghan warlord,and the americans call him a friend,because he is not a member of the taliban.<br />
but considering the fact that a jew was guilty of murdering his own daughter and granddaughter(yes i am talking about the guy who killed the french jewish girl rose pizem), every society has its monsters.</p>
<p>even in saudi arabia women can show their face, its pretty stupid to stereotype arabs as all backwards , its like saying all jewish people are greedy money hungry economy destroying bankers who ruin the countries they stay in, sort of like pre ww1 and ww2 germany and today america is in a financial collapse, thanks to people like bernard madoff.</p>
<p>in america there is a lot of anger against jews thanks to the collapse of lehman brothers,bear stern,madoff scandall,this time you really are guilty arent you,you know what maybe its good to be a backward arab stuck in the desert rather than a jew in america, especially when the shit hits the fan eh.</p>
<p>and one more thing, america is borrowing money from poorer countries to survive, how fucking lame is that, what kind of assholes borrow money from the poor??</p>
<p>china is poorer than america but america borrows daily 2 billion dollars from the chinese, so go figure.</p>
<p>at least the oil arabs sell is their own, while fat americans  borrow money to lead a good life style.</p>
<p>as for abuse of woman, let me ask you tom morrisay, are you saying the orthodox jews dont attack immodest women???</p>
<p>do you guys want me to post articles where jews have attacked woman for not wearing the right clothes?</p>
<p>and  i find it shameful that men are threatened by confident women, the first muslim women actually fought on the battlefield against armies, but you jews have the story of esther who prostituted herself to a persian king, and its in your torah and you even celebrate it,lol.</p>
<p>one more thing, can anyone please explain it to me why bernard madoff isnt in jail yet, or is america so blind to your crimes that you can do anything you want and ruin their lives and waste their money.(do i need to mention jewish bear stern and lehman brothers executives)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Morrissey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Morrissey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Paskudnyak&#039; means &#039;shlemiel&#039; in the Cree language of northern Quebec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Paskudnyak&#8217; means &#8216;shlemiel&#8217; in the Cree language of northern Quebec.</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ephraim, &quot;goyim&quot; is the same person as &quot;simple guy&quot; and &quot;we are human too&quot;. I think the more we respond to him, the more he may feel tempted to spew his propaganda here.</description>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The focus on spirituality and mysticism (and, as some reputable religious Jewish historians state, even the notion of messianism as it exists in Chasidism) were adoptions from Christianity and do not reflect what religious Judaism typically was like before the Jewish Enlightment triggered Orthodoxy as its counterpart.

Despite what you claim, many Chasidim use the internet, and there has been an ongoing discussion among leading religious figures as how to gauge its benefits vs its risks (which, BTW, is closely related to the discussion of the concerns secular parents have about their kids using the internet). Even Chasidishe rabbis access the internet. I resent the notion that I was brainwashing secular Jews into believing that there was nothing good to be gained out of Torah Judaism. I just wish to get people to critically reflect the role of self-acclaimed religious / social authorities and not take them for the &lt;i&gt;norma normans&lt;/i&gt; of Judaism as they are not. They are a variety of Judaism.

As for the clothing, since the idea of what constitutes as tzniusdik clothing even clashes with what would be considered proper business attire in the secular world, where men do not get aroused from spotting a woman&#039;s collar bone or the lower half of her kneecap, I dare say the vast majority of secular men does not fantasize about mating when he sees a woman in a regular blouse and knee-length skirt.

As for the lady in that picture, she&#039;d not be considered particularly attractive in Europe as her eyes are puffy and without sparkle.</description>
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<p>Despite what you claim, many Chasidim use the internet, and there has been an ongoing discussion among leading religious figures as how to gauge its benefits vs its risks (which, BTW, is closely related to the discussion of the concerns secular parents have about their kids using the internet). Even Chasidishe rabbis access the internet. I resent the notion that I was brainwashing secular Jews into believing that there was nothing good to be gained out of Torah Judaism. I just wish to get people to critically reflect the role of self-acclaimed religious / social authorities and not take them for the <i>norma normans</i> of Judaism as they are not. They are a variety of Judaism.</p>
<p>As for the clothing, since the idea of what constitutes as tzniusdik clothing even clashes with what would be considered proper business attire in the secular world, where men do not get aroused from spotting a woman&#8217;s collar bone or the lower half of her kneecap, I dare say the vast majority of secular men does not fantasize about mating when he sees a woman in a regular blouse and knee-length skirt.</p>
<p>As for the lady in that picture, she&#8217;d not be considered particularly attractive in Europe as her eyes are puffy and without sparkle.</p>
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