And Middle’s right. Why should anyone on G-d’s green earth expect Israel to feed the people who are bombing them? I swear to G-d, that’s like asking why the Allies didn’t airlift food into Berlin during WWII to help the poor starving Nazis. Are you out of your mind? What planet are you living on?

And don’t give me that “why punish the civilians just because Hamas is shooting rockets at Sderot? Isn’t that collective punishment?”

You’re goddam right it’s collective punishment. They voted for Hamas. Let them suffer the consequences. Everybody else in the world is expected to take responsibility for the government they vote in. Why should the Pseudostinians be any different?

I have no sympathy for people who tear down greenhouses that could have fed them so they can use the materials to make missiles to shoot at the very people who gave the the fucking greenhouses to begin with and then whine that they’re starving. Chutzpah, thy name is Hamas.

I’m sorry, but I only have so much sympathy to spare, and there are any number of better candidates for it than people who shit where they eat because they have no sense.

And last time I checked, Egypt has a border with Gaza too. If they would rather their kids starve because they don’t want them to eat Jew food, let the eat Egyptian food instead. There are plenty of poor people in Israel who can use the food.

It may not be working, but at least Hamas isn’t able to boast to its people that it has actually gotten them anything or improved their lives in any way.

” I don’t think malnourished Pseudostinian kids bothers Hamas at all; on the contrary, they want and need suffering children to con idiots like you into believing it’s all our fault. ”

so, then why play into their hands and limit food shipments into Gaza?

TM:

“Only one poster posted something about deporting Palestinians and even she didn’t advocate that. ”

a bit disengenuous, no? she basically said “I don’t actually advocate ethnic cleansing but I just want to idly mention that Israel is within its rights to do so”

btw, have you figured out whether the geneva conventions allow for the deportation of 5 million palestinians yet? inquiring minds want to know.

First of all, it was only one poster and it happened only once so there’s nothing disingenuous about stating that.

Second, if she believed that Israel was within its rights to do so, then there is nothing to argue about regarding her mention of that information. She stated what she thought was fact and dismissed the idea from her own viewpoint. Had she advocated it on the basis of knowing that it’s a legal possibility, then you’d have something to complain about. She presented the information as a basis for the logic that led her to certain conclusions about the position of the Palestinians. People are allowed to be mistaken. She did not advocate transfer, merely stated that she believed it was permissible.

As for transfer of population, I have now found two sources that say that in certain circumstances (which probably don’t apply to Israel and the Palestinians) it may be permissible:

58. A number of political solutions are available to States faced with problems of governing a plural society. As explained in the second progress report of the Special Rapporteur on the protection of minorities, Eide, op. cit., pp. 15–19. State responses may range from homogenization to separation. Each point on the policy spectrum is neither intrinsically benign nor malign; that determination would rest on a variety of human rights criteria. Homogenization and territorial separation fall into two general categories: those based on egalitarianism and those based on dominance. The egalitarian – and, therefore, legal – nature of physical separation of populations requires consent and voluntary movement. The criteria for egalitarian territorial separation, according to the Special Rapporteur, entail:

(a) Voluntary choice of each party involved;

(b) No hierarchical ranking between groups;

(c) Sharing of common resources on a basis of equality;

(d) Whenever the groups interact, there are no privileges for members of one group to the detriment of members of another group. Ibid., pp. 16–17.

That’s from UNCHR
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And this article from a law professor who claims that while laws regarding population transfer have changed dramatically since Nuremberg, and ostensibly the legal right to do so has been eliminated, in actuality they are still in existence and it is only a matter of circumstance which determines how such an action would be viewed.

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If the Pseudostinians want to eat, they should stop tearing down the greenhouses people give them (you know, for free) and refusing to allow Jew food from Israel into Gaza like they do all the time (mererhetoric.c...). Diverting practically all of their fuel and other resources into making missiles doesn’t help too much either.

Starving Pseudostinian kids are their own fucking fault. Israel is not to blame for it.

But their strategy is obviously working: if even Jews can be conned into believing that starving Pseudostinan kids are the fault of the evil Zionazis, how much more so will everybody else believe it? I don’t think malnourished Pseudostinian kids bothers Hamas at all; on the contrary, they want and need suffering children to con idiots like you into believing it’s all our fault. It is beyond monstrous. But it is not surprising: the welfare of the people it rules is the lowest priority for Hamas. All they care about is killing Jews. Everything else is secondary.

But I think that allowing the creation of a Pseudostinian state under the circumstances with which Israel is now faced would make things infinitely worse.

Personally, I believe that there is going to be another war. I don’t say that with any happiness or glee, either, just so you know. I think it is sad and horrible. But there was war when Israel was not in the territories, and there’s war now that Israel is there. It is within the power of the Pseudostinians to stop it if they want.

And, while I don’t agree with all of this “Apartheid” nonsense, even if it were true, it would be preferable to Jews getting murdered by terrorists.

The settlements and the “occupation” are not the cause of Arab anger at Israel. They are the result of it. In view of the history, I don’t see how it is possible to seriously claim, based on the evidence, that withdrawing will bring peace. All indications are that it would bring the exact opposite.

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stunting the growth of children is not going to improve Hamas’ disposition.