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	<title>Comments on: Without a strong JTA, the storytelling will be left to bloggers, twitterers, and non-professionals.</title>
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		<title>By: Unknown</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1604360</link>
		<dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 05:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jewlicious &#187; Jewish Twitter Girls Gone Wild: The Top 50!</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1308870</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewlicious &#187; Jewish Twitter Girls Gone Wild: The Top 50!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 13:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] President Elisa Spungen Bildner. The letter contained words that some bloggers and twitterers found somewhat disparaging. A quick quasi-apology was issued and calm was urged. About a month later, the JTA published a list [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] President Elisa Spungen Bildner. The letter contained words that some bloggers and twitterers found somewhat disparaging. A quick quasi-apology was issued and calm was urged. About a month later, the JTA published a list [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JTA Vs The Blogosphere</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1300971</link>
		<dc:creator>JTA Vs The Blogosphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] summarize, the JTA sent out a fundraising letter that insulted bloggers and tweeters. The JBloggers got pissed and the JTA backtracked. That should have been the end of it right? But then the Forward picked up [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] summarize, the JTA sent out a fundraising letter that insulted bloggers and tweeters. The JBloggers got pissed and the JTA backtracked. That should have been the end of it right? But then the Forward picked up [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jewlicious &#187; Terror Army of Jew Robots</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1299914</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewlicious &#187; Terror Army of Jew Robots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cares. To summarize, the JTA sent out a fundraising letter that insulted bloggers and tweeters. The JBloggers got pissed and the JTA backtracked. That should have been the end of it right? But then the Forward picked up [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cares. To summarize, the JTA sent out a fundraising letter that insulted bloggers and tweeters. The JBloggers got pissed and the JTA backtracked. That should have been the end of it right? But then the Forward picked up [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jameel @ The Muqata</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1291423</link>
		<dc:creator>Jameel @ The Muqata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My blog&#039;s news reporting during Cast Lead (and the Second Lebanon War) was carried everywhere.  It was alot more up to date and informative than anything on the web, let alone JTA (except of course, for Aussie Dave and Israel Matzav)

A Happy and Kosher Passover.

Jameel &amp; Crew
The Muqata</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My blog&#8217;s news reporting during Cast Lead (and the Second Lebanon War) was carried everywhere.  It was alot more up to date and informative than anything on the web, let alone JTA (except of course, for Aussie Dave and Israel Matzav)</p>
<p>A Happy and Kosher Passover.</p>
<p>Jameel &amp; Crew<br />
The Muqata</p>
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		<title>By: Jewlicious &#187; JTA President Elisa Spungen Bildner Responds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewlicious &#187; JTA President Elisa Spungen Bildner Responds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] already wrote a post about the JTA&#8217;s fund raising letter, sent last Friday, that offended so many Jewish bloggers. Elisa Spungen Bildner, President of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] already wrote a post about the JTA&#8217;s fund raising letter, sent last Friday, that offended so many Jewish bloggers. Elisa Spungen Bildner, President of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rabbi Yonah</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1290906</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabbi Yonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks EV for your comments and I hope that you will join the discussion on a regular basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks EV for your comments and I hope that you will join the discussion on a regular basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Sieradski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Sieradski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JTA President Elisa Spungen Bildner responds: http://is.gd/qWxw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JTA President Elisa Spungen Bildner responds: <a href="http://is.gd/qWxw" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://is.gd/qWxw'>is.gd/qWxw</a></p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1290823</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EV: No you have to guess! I didn&#039;t use your birthday pic skin tone because it was too pale - from the flash, not the shtetl skin.

And speak for itself? Don&#039;t you LOVE the discussion inspired by your comics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EV: No you have to guess! I didn&#8217;t use your birthday pic skin tone because it was too pale &#8211; from the flash, not the shtetl skin.</p>
<p>And speak for itself? Don&#8217;t you LOVE the discussion inspired by your comics?</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1290682</link>
		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;given that I don’t get paid to blog&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;That’s too bad. I make serious coin.&lt;/i&gt;

And I get to have lunch with Kelsey and dinner tonight with two more infamous bloggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>given that I don’t get paid to blog</i></b></p>
<p><i>That’s too bad. I make serious coin.</i></p>
<p>And I get to have lunch with Kelsey and dinner tonight with two more infamous bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: EV</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1290679</link>
		<dc:creator>EV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;perhaps fed by said “pernicious hucksters?”&quot;

-- or by overexcited imbeciles whose agenda may or may not be pernicious.  I give them the benefit of the doubt and conclude they&#039;re simply imbeciles.  It&#039;s the community&#039;s responsibility to see through the bloviation and blather and stop latching itself on to the latest trends.  But as the community is led by so many of the imbecilic persuasion, and as the community is desperate to be &quot;hip&quot; to the &quot;next-gen,&quot; the phenomenon feeds itself quite nicely, and will continue to do so with whatever trend appears next on the horizon.

Anyway, I didn&#039;t comment mostly b/c I would like my comics to speak for themselves without explanation, but I do think the distinction re. &quot;hucksters&quot; is worth pointing out.

So whose skin tones did you use?  Mine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;perhaps fed by said “pernicious hucksters?”&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; or by overexcited imbeciles whose agenda may or may not be pernicious.  I give them the benefit of the doubt and conclude they&#8217;re simply imbeciles.  It&#8217;s the community&#8217;s responsibility to see through the bloviation and blather and stop latching itself on to the latest trends.  But as the community is led by so many of the imbecilic persuasion, and as the community is desperate to be &#8220;hip&#8221; to the &#8220;next-gen,&#8221; the phenomenon feeds itself quite nicely, and will continue to do so with whatever trend appears next on the horizon.</p>
<p>Anyway, I didn&#8217;t comment mostly b/c I would like my comics to speak for themselves without explanation, but I do think the distinction re. &#8220;hucksters&#8221; is worth pointing out.</p>
<p>So whose skin tones did you use?  Mine?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;given that I don’t get paid to blog&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s too bad. I make serious coin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>given that I don’t get paid to blog</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s too bad. I make serious coin.</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1290653</link>
		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, CK, Raphi&#039;s a journalist by education and by trade...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, CK, Raphi&#8217;s a journalist by education and by trade&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1290586</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fucking non-advertising anti-semites....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fucking non-advertising anti-semites&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Balaam's Donkey</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1290585</link>
		<dc:creator>Balaam's Donkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one thing that we can all agree on is that EV is absolutely delightful, no?

I dare someone to fight me on this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one thing that we can all agree on is that EV is absolutely delightful, no?</p>
<p>I dare someone to fight me on this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1290572</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I delete certain anti-Semites regularly, but none of them have ever offered to advertise with us. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I delete certain anti-Semites regularly, but none of them have ever offered to advertise with us. <img src='http://www.jewlicious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1290558</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EV wrote &quot;The comic’s target was Jewish communal organizations that are chasing after the latest perceived panacea of Jewish “engagement,” with typical myopia and cluelessness...&quot; perhaps fed by said &quot;pernicious hucksters?&quot;

Glad you found the coloring delightful. Me? I find you delightful!

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EV wrote &#8220;The comic’s target was Jewish communal organizations that are chasing after the latest perceived panacea of Jewish “engagement,” with typical myopia and cluelessness&#8230;&#8221; perhaps fed by said &#8220;pernicious hucksters?&#8221;</p>
<p>Glad you found the coloring delightful. Me? I find you delightful!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.jewlicious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1290556</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and still NO mention of the awesome coloring job I did on the last EV comic...

I like to think I&#039;m pretty transparent. Unless I&#039;m obligated by the terms of an NDA, I take no measures to hide any of my professional work. To date I&#039;ve written 1259 (!!) posts, none of which I get paid for. The money we generate from advertising is so little it would make you cry and barely pays for our servers. In any case, there&#039;s a link on top to the Jewlicious Festival site which contains a thorough list of all our Festival sponsors ever. I made a web site for ROI 120, I&#039;ve helped run a few Birthright Israel trips, We were paid to produce a video for Birthright, we&#039;ve done work for 2 trip providers, a wide variety of Jewish organizations have advertised on Jewlicious - I can&#039;t even remember them all... given that I don&#039;t get paid to blog, having to figure out all the possible connections and interconnections a blog post might involve is simply not realistic. I don&#039;t have the time to do that. I think it&#039;s enough that the information sought is publicly available AND anyone wishing to dispute my impartiality is free to do so on Jewlicious. We never delete critical comments. So yeah, given all that, I think it&#039;s fair to say that I do a reasonable job at being both credible and transparent. Also, I am not a journalist! Jewlicious presents our posts free of charge and as is.

Oof. Thank Hashem for my non-Jewish clients!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and still NO mention of the awesome coloring job I did on the last EV comic&#8230;</p>
<p>I like to think I&#8217;m pretty transparent. Unless I&#8217;m obligated by the terms of an NDA, I take no measures to hide any of my professional work. To date I&#8217;ve written 1259 (!!) posts, none of which I get paid for. The money we generate from advertising is so little it would make you cry and barely pays for our servers. In any case, there&#8217;s a link on top to the Jewlicious Festival site which contains a thorough list of all our Festival sponsors ever. I made a web site for ROI 120, I&#8217;ve helped run a few Birthright Israel trips, We were paid to produce a video for Birthright, we&#8217;ve done work for 2 trip providers, a wide variety of Jewish organizations have advertised on Jewlicious &#8211; I can&#8217;t even remember them all&#8230; given that I don&#8217;t get paid to blog, having to figure out all the possible connections and interconnections a blog post might involve is simply not realistic. I don&#8217;t have the time to do that. I think it&#8217;s enough that the information sought is publicly available AND anyone wishing to dispute my impartiality is free to do so on Jewlicious. We never delete critical comments. So yeah, given all that, I think it&#8217;s fair to say that I do a reasonable job at being both credible and transparent. Also, I am not a journalist! Jewlicious presents our posts free of charge and as is.</p>
<p>Oof. Thank Hashem for my non-Jewish clients!  <img src='http://www.jewlicious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: EV</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1290544</link>
		<dc:creator>EV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ck -- just saw your comment.  The coloring job was delightful!  I didn&#039;t comment because I felt you were maybe overly harsh on social entrepreneurs as pernicious hucksters, which wasn&#039;t my intent in the comic.  The comic&#039;s target was Jewish communal organizations that are chasing after the latest perceived panacea of Jewish &quot;engagement,&quot; with typical myopia and cluelessness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ck &#8212; just saw your comment.  The coloring job was delightful!  I didn&#8217;t comment because I felt you were maybe overly harsh on social entrepreneurs as pernicious hucksters, which wasn&#8217;t my intent in the comic.  The comic&#8217;s target was Jewish communal organizations that are chasing after the latest perceived panacea of Jewish &#8220;engagement,&#8221; with typical myopia and cluelessness.</p>
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		<title>By: EV</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/04/without-a-strong-jta-the-storytelling-will-be-left-to-bloggers-twitterers-and-non-professionals/#comment-1290539</link>
		<dc:creator>EV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jewlicious Festivals has funders who have been identified publicly.&quot;  Really?  On this website?  On this page?  I don&#039;t see it.  And I certainly don&#039;t see it on posts covering programs initiated by these sponsors.  Jewlicious has a whole host of funders identified on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2164.net/submissions2007/slingshot2007_33.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slingshot&#039;s 2007 submission form&lt;/a&gt;, but if this (updated) list also exists on Jewlicious&#039;s site, please identify it.  I don&#039;t see it on your &quot;About&quot; page.

Per your remarks separating the Festival from the blog: Jewlicious.com and the Jewlicious Festivals are the same brand.  You can&#039;t separate the Festival from the blog in terms of funding sources and coverage.  It&#039;s natural that coverage will tend to be hagiographic when money for the Festival is on the line.  So whenever the blog covers an organization for which it receives money for its festival, there is a conflict of interest that needs to be clarified through a disclaimer in that very post, period.

Also, I was talking about &quot;direct&quot; and &quot;indirect&quot; funding sources.  The latter category would include any instance in which David Abitbol designs a website for a Jewish organization and then writes a flattering post about that organization on Jewlicious.  I&#039;m only singling out Jewlicious because Abitbol posted about this.  The same would apply to any blog that aspires towards credibility.

I really hope Jewish blogs -- and ultimately all blogs -- will move towards a culture of total transparency, as that was one of the ideas behind the emergence of blogs as forces of news commentary in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jewlicious Festivals has funders who have been identified publicly.&#8221;  Really?  On this website?  On this page?  I don&#8217;t see it.  And I certainly don&#8217;t see it on posts covering programs initiated by these sponsors.  Jewlicious has a whole host of funders identified on <a href="http://www.2164.net/submissions2007/slingshot2007_33.html" rel="nofollow">Slingshot&#8217;s 2007 submission form</a>, but if this (updated) list also exists on Jewlicious&#8217;s site, please identify it.  I don&#8217;t see it on your &#8220;About&#8221; page.</p>
<p>Per your remarks separating the Festival from the blog: Jewlicious.com and the Jewlicious Festivals are the same brand.  You can&#8217;t separate the Festival from the blog in terms of funding sources and coverage.  It&#8217;s natural that coverage will tend to be hagiographic when money for the Festival is on the line.  So whenever the blog covers an organization for which it receives money for its festival, there is a conflict of interest that needs to be clarified through a disclaimer in that very post, period.</p>
<p>Also, I was talking about &#8220;direct&#8221; and &#8220;indirect&#8221; funding sources.  The latter category would include any instance in which David Abitbol designs a website for a Jewish organization and then writes a flattering post about that organization on Jewlicious.  I&#8217;m only singling out Jewlicious because Abitbol posted about this.  The same would apply to any blog that aspires towards credibility.</p>
<p>I really hope Jewish blogs &#8212; and ultimately all blogs &#8212; will move towards a culture of total transparency, as that was one of the ideas behind the emergence of blogs as forces of news commentary in the first place.</p>
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