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	<title>Comments on: Kol Hakavod, Alysa Stanton!</title>
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		<title>By: Dannie Tronzo</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/kol-hakavod-alysa-stanton/#comment-1792270</link>
		<dc:creator>Dannie Tronzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really make it appear really easy together with your presentation however I in finding this matter to be actually something that I think I might never understand. It sort of feels too complex and very extensive for me. I&#039;m taking a look forward to your next post, I will attempt to get the hang of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really make it appear really easy together with your presentation however I in finding this matter to be actually something that I think I might never understand. It sort of feels too complex and very extensive for me. I&#8217;m taking a look forward to your next post, I will attempt to get the hang of it!</p>
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		<title>By: Irish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furrealz? That&#039;s marevlolsuy good to know.</description>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/kol-hakavod-alysa-stanton/#comment-1624434</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well actually... this is an old post. Her congregation announced in January that her contract would not be renewed and that she will leave this coming July.
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We felt Rabbi Stanton has brought a lot of gifts to the congregation, but we felt she wasn’t a good fit for the direction we’re going,” board president Samantha Pilot told the Forward.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://jta.org/news/article/2011/01/06/2742434/first-black-female-rabbi-to-leave-congregation

But it&#039;s not a Sephardic/Ashkenazic thing. And Jade, if you come across an unfriendly community, find another one - or better yet, stick it out and help change people&#039;s ignorant pre-conceived notions of what it means to be a Jew!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well actually&#8230; this is an old post. Her congregation announced in January that her contract would not be renewed and that she will leave this coming July.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We felt Rabbi Stanton has brought a lot of gifts to the congregation, but we felt she wasn’t a good fit for the direction we’re going,” board president Samantha Pilot told the Forward.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://jta.org/news/article/2011/01/06/2742434/first-black-female-rabbi-to-leave-congregation" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://jta.org/news/article/2011/01/06/2742434/first-black-female-rabbi-to-leave-congregation'>jta.org/news/a...</a></p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not a Sephardic/Ashkenazic thing. And Jade, if you come across an unfriendly community, find another one &#8211; or better yet, stick it out and help change people&#8217;s ignorant pre-conceived notions of what it means to be a Jew!</p>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/kol-hakavod-alysa-stanton/#comment-1624408</link>
		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Jew from a Muslim country and I can tell you that every time I walk into a synagogue, my Jewishness is questioned. Every. Single. Time. I am sick and tired of it. To the Ashkenazim: Judaism didn&#039;t start in the shtettles of Poland. Don&#039;t forget that not everyone has the shtettle mentality, eats bagels, and finds Woody Allen to be funny. That is not my Judaism and never will be. I make no apologies for it. 

As for Rabbi Stanton&#039;s ordination, I think it&#039;s wonderful. I hope she is being well-received in her community. G-d knows I have not been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Jew from a Muslim country and I can tell you that every time I walk into a synagogue, my Jewishness is questioned. Every. Single. Time. I am sick and tired of it. To the Ashkenazim: Judaism didn&#8217;t start in the shtettles of Poland. Don&#8217;t forget that not everyone has the shtettle mentality, eats bagels, and finds Woody Allen to be funny. That is not my Judaism and never will be. I make no apologies for it. </p>
<p>As for Rabbi Stanton&#8217;s ordination, I think it&#8217;s wonderful. I hope she is being well-received in her community. G-d knows I have not been.</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/kol-hakavod-alysa-stanton/#comment-1336269</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marqueta: Call (252) 830-1138 and ask the Synagogue for her email address. Or talk to her directly. Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marqueta: Call (252) 830-1138 and ask the Synagogue for her email address. Or talk to her directly. Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Marqueta Stanton</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/kol-hakavod-alysa-stanton/#comment-1336266</link>
		<dc:creator>Marqueta Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am interested to learn more about Rabbi Stanton.  I have relatives from Ohio and would like to research to see if we are related.  I am so proud and exicted.  If anyone knows how I can make contact, even by email only to Rabbi Stanton please let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am interested to learn more about Rabbi Stanton.  I have relatives from Ohio and would like to research to see if we are related.  I am so proud and exicted.  If anyone knows how I can make contact, even by email only to Rabbi Stanton please let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabbi Alysa Stanton becomes a rabbi (who happens to be African-American) : Writes Like She Talks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabbi Alysa Stanton becomes a rabbi (who happens to be African-American) : Writes Like She Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jewlicious: Kol Hakavod, Alysa Stanton! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: arielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>arielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and by seperatist, i meant separatist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and by seperatist, i meant separatist</p>
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		<title>By: arielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>arielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. so i really wasn&#039;t expecting this response so long after posting it. i wanted to recognize her as a Jew-by-choice who not only found comfort in our faith and culture, but made the choice to continue on her Jewish path. I am as frustrated as Alice when I see those that refer to the non-orthodox as an &quot;other&quot;, not Jewish, not believing. It&#039;s that kind of seperatist attitude that makes a constructive dialogue so difficult. But however difficult, it is important - so that we can recognize our differences and celebrate all that we share in common.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. so i really wasn&#8217;t expecting this response so long after posting it. i wanted to recognize her as a Jew-by-choice who not only found comfort in our faith and culture, but made the choice to continue on her Jewish path. I am as frustrated as Alice when I see those that refer to the non-orthodox as an &#8220;other&#8221;, not Jewish, not believing. It&#8217;s that kind of seperatist attitude that makes a constructive dialogue so difficult. But however difficult, it is important &#8211; so that we can recognize our differences and celebrate all that we share in common.</p>
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		<title>By: Besalel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Besalel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alice: Being Jewish isn&#039;t just what a person calls himself. 

Being Jewish is multi-faceted. There is Jewish culture, Jewish history, Jewish religion, Jewish identity, Jewish lineage, etc. All of those make up different parts of being jewish. 

Ultimately, to be a Jew (religion) means to accept the three covenants between man and god. The first god made with Noach and it is the promise to be a good human: don&#039;t steal, don&#039;t kill, etc. The second was between god and abraham to love and live in Israel and the third between god and moses to keep the torah. 

If you do not accept these three then you are a great a fine person and a jew (identity) or jew (history) but not a jew (religion) no matter how many bagels you eat. On the other hand, if you keep them then you are a Jew (religion) no matter what the circumstances of your birth. 

Bottom line: you can feel jewish, call yourself jewish, eat cold sweet smelly ashkenazi food, feel guilty all the time, parade on fifth avenue for israel and cry on holocaust memorial day and these things make you jewish in some ways or another but they do not make you a person of the jewish religion. When orthodox jews talk about being jewish they talk about being a part of the jewish religion. when you talk about being jewish you talk about thinking woody allen is funny. we&#039;re not talking about the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice: Being Jewish isn&#8217;t just what a person calls himself. </p>
<p>Being Jewish is multi-faceted. There is Jewish culture, Jewish history, Jewish religion, Jewish identity, Jewish lineage, etc. All of those make up different parts of being jewish. </p>
<p>Ultimately, to be a Jew (religion) means to accept the three covenants between man and god. The first god made with Noach and it is the promise to be a good human: don&#8217;t steal, don&#8217;t kill, etc. The second was between god and abraham to love and live in Israel and the third between god and moses to keep the torah. </p>
<p>If you do not accept these three then you are a great a fine person and a jew (identity) or jew (history) but not a jew (religion) no matter how many bagels you eat. On the other hand, if you keep them then you are a Jew (religion) no matter what the circumstances of your birth. </p>
<p>Bottom line: you can feel jewish, call yourself jewish, eat cold sweet smelly ashkenazi food, feel guilty all the time, parade on fifth avenue for israel and cry on holocaust memorial day and these things make you jewish in some ways or another but they do not make you a person of the jewish religion. When orthodox jews talk about being jewish they talk about being a part of the jewish religion. when you talk about being jewish you talk about thinking woody allen is funny. we&#8217;re not talking about the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Grand Muffti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grand Muffti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From aggressive to passive aggressive. Nifty switch, Alice! 

Muffti doesn&#039;t put a whole lot of stock in this religion stuff but he does like to see these sorts of barriers come down, especially between two communities that haven&#039;t always historically gotten along very well. So, yeshar-koach Alysa,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From aggressive to passive aggressive. Nifty switch, Alice! </p>
<p>Muffti doesn&#8217;t put a whole lot of stock in this religion stuff but he does like to see these sorts of barriers come down, especially between two communities that haven&#8217;t always historically gotten along very well. So, yeshar-koach Alysa,</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
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		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not diminishing anything as it&#039;s the personal importance that matters to you. It&#039;s not religiously mandated, and that is something that will separate you from Orthodox Jews, who have a different take on this. I just meant to mention that Judaism, unlike Christianity, does not have a original rite of initiation at adolescent age even though the calling of a boy / girl to the Torah is often considered such. They already are members of the community, and unlike in Christianity, not having a bar / bat mitzvah celebration will not to some degree exclude you from the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not diminishing anything as it&#8217;s the personal importance that matters to you. It&#8217;s not religiously mandated, and that is something that will separate you from Orthodox Jews, who have a different take on this. I just meant to mention that Judaism, unlike Christianity, does not have a original rite of initiation at adolescent age even though the calling of a boy / girl to the Torah is often considered such. They already are members of the community, and unlike in Christianity, not having a bar / bat mitzvah celebration will not to some degree exclude you from the community.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt it was a very important time between myself and joining the community of my temple at the time.  It was a joyous day.  But thanks for diminishing the importance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I felt it was a very important time between myself and joining the community of my temple at the time.  It was a joyous day.  But thanks for diminishing the importance.</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/kol-hakavod-alysa-stanton/#comment-1319838</link>
		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, there&#039;s no need for a bar / bat mitzvah ceremony - it just marks the point when you reach religious legal age. Just a sidenote. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, there&#8217;s no need for a bar / bat mitzvah ceremony &#8211; it just marks the point when you reach religious legal age. Just a sidenote. <img src='http://www.jewlicious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allow me to clarify what I mean when I say I might not be considered a &quot;real&quot; Jew.  For one, my father is Catholic (I know, I know) and I considered myself on the relaxed side of Conservative.  But, I was raised a Jew, I&#039;m Bat Mitzvah&#039;d and I live my life according to the law</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow me to clarify what I mean when I say I might not be considered a &#8220;real&#8221; Jew.  For one, my father is Catholic (I know, I know) and I considered myself on the relaxed side of Conservative.  But, I was raised a Jew, I&#8217;m Bat Mitzvah&#8217;d and I live my life according to the law</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize for my aggression .. I just get so frustrated with negativity.

I appreciate that.  I guess I just worry about a time when there will be temple so exclusive that no one can get in.  That troubles me.  It troubles me that there are those amongst the Frum community that don&#039;t consider me a real Jew.  I&#039;d like to think that there is room for all of us and that G-d loves all of us.  There is room for Rabbi Stanton.  We should welcome her to the community!!  We should not quibble with one another.  We should unite, not divide!!!

I hope I used enough exclamation points!! Hehe :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize for my aggression .. I just get so frustrated with negativity.</p>
<p>I appreciate that.  I guess I just worry about a time when there will be temple so exclusive that no one can get in.  That troubles me.  It troubles me that there are those amongst the Frum community that don&#8217;t consider me a real Jew.  I&#8217;d like to think that there is room for all of us and that G-d loves all of us.  There is room for Rabbi Stanton.  We should welcome her to the community!!  We should not quibble with one another.  We should unite, not divide!!!</p>
<p>I hope I used enough exclamation points!! Hehe <img src='http://www.jewlicious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Yitzchak Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yitzchak Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ck, while I commend you for acknowledging that Judaism isn&#039;t a race, I can tell you, as a Jew of color myself, that sadly, for too many in the Jewish community, the fact that Rabbi Stanton is black would most definitely be of relevance--and not in good way, either.  And I know a lot of other Jews of color (and white Jewish allies) who could tell you the same thing.

And Eli?  Though I do have my ideas, the last thing I want to do is misunderstand you, so could you please tell us what the &quot;this&quot; is that &quot;makes Jewlicious 0% kosher&quot;?

And yes, Kol Hakavod to Rabbi Stanton!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ck, while I commend you for acknowledging that Judaism isn&#8217;t a race, I can tell you, as a Jew of color myself, that sadly, for too many in the Jewish community, the fact that Rabbi Stanton is black would most definitely be of relevance&#8211;and not in good way, either.  And I know a lot of other Jews of color (and white Jewish allies) who could tell you the same thing.</p>
<p>And Eli?  Though I do have my ideas, the last thing I want to do is misunderstand you, so could you please tell us what the &#8220;this&#8221; is that &#8220;makes Jewlicious 0% kosher&#8221;?</p>
<p>And yes, Kol Hakavod to Rabbi Stanton!</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and make liberal use of exclamation points. Sheesh. Where did I learn to write?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and make liberal use of exclamation points. Sheesh. Where did I learn to write?</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Hashem, and I love all my fellow Jews even when I disagree with them or when they disagree with me. Alice, you are welcome here always and try not to take offense. If you disagree with me or anyone else on the site say what you like, we&#039;ll never censor you (unless you are in fact a Nazi, God forbid!). And find a temple you like! That&#039;s better than no temple at all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Hashem, and I love all my fellow Jews even when I disagree with them or when they disagree with me. Alice, you are welcome here always and try not to take offense. If you disagree with me or anyone else on the site say what you like, we&#8217;ll never censor you (unless you are in fact a Nazi, God forbid!). And find a temple you like! That&#8217;s better than no temple at all!</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Way to be inclusive, folks.  This is why I stopped going to temple years ago.  I need not worry about anti-semitism, as I can get plenty of ridicule and judgment directly from other Jews.  This is why our faith is dying.  Way to contribute.  

Focusing on the the litigious nonsense of what does and does not constitute are &quot;real&quot; Jew, rather than concentrating on G-d is a grave mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Way to be inclusive, folks.  This is why I stopped going to temple years ago.  I need not worry about anti-semitism, as I can get plenty of ridicule and judgment directly from other Jews.  This is why our faith is dying.  Way to contribute.  </p>
<p>Focusing on the the litigious nonsense of what does and does not constitute are &#8220;real&#8221; Jew, rather than concentrating on G-d is a grave mistake.</p>
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