Comments on: Memo to Hollywood: Boycott Ken Loach http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/ It's a Jewish Blog! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:17:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nanoboy http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1577564 Nanoboy Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:19:45 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1577564 Janice, There were Jews who supported the Spanish Inquisition, the Third Reich. And yes there were many Jews who buried the story of the Holocaust while it was going on. Israel was not created from the Holocaust and I suggest you read where the word Palestine comes from. Also a great Hebrew phrase for you and your likes, "The compassionate for the evil are evil for the compassionate" Janice,
There were Jews who supported the Spanish Inquisition, the Third Reich. And yes there were many Jews who buried the story of the Holocaust while it was going on. Israel was not created from the Holocaust and I suggest you read where the word Palestine comes from. Also a great Hebrew phrase for you and your likes, “The compassionate for the evil are evil for the compassionate”

]]> By: Mark Bernadiner http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1334502 Mark Bernadiner Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:41:07 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1334502 Ken Loach is a dull, talentless filmmaker, profoundly ignorant idiot and islamofascist prostitute, typical briton. Ken Loach is a dull, talentless filmmaker, profoundly ignorant idiot and islamofascist prostitute, typical briton.

]]> By: AlexK http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313582 AlexK Thu, 21 May 2009 17:29:47 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313582 I just checked them out again and think they are twice as stupid as before. Job well done Janice. Can you please work on Obama's next campaign, which should be starting, well, about now. I just checked them out again and think they are twice as stupid as before. Job well done Janice. Can you please work on Obama’s next campaign, which should be starting, well, about now.

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313577 froylein Thu, 21 May 2009 17:23:35 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313577 I thought those were blogs run by circumcised leprechauns? Now not only the grammar but also the imagery has got a German, Dutch / Flemmish, or Scandinavian touch. I thought those were blogs run by circumcised leprechauns?

Now not only the grammar but also the imagery has got a German, Dutch / Flemmish, or Scandinavian touch.

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313572 themiddle Thu, 21 May 2009 17:04:47 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313572 <blockquote>Jewish Voice for Peace and Muzzlewatch as well as Tikkun</blockquote> :lol: Trust me, we've checked them out. At least now we know you're not a troll.

Jewish Voice for Peace and Muzzlewatch as well as Tikkun

:lol:

Trust me, we’ve checked them out. At least now we know you’re not a troll.

]]> By: Janice http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313569 Janice Thu, 21 May 2009 16:49:12 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313569 If you don't want to believe I am Jewish that is up to you. I know some of you can't stand it when someone who is Jewish stands up for justice for both peoples, not just for Israelis. I guess I learned my values from my Jewish parents and grandparents who taught me that the tribe isn't always right and that taking other people's land isn't exactly kosher. As for being from another country, if you call New York another country I guess you might be correct. But I call New York part of the United States. And once again, get it through your heads that there are more and more Jews who do not say that Israel speaks for them. Some speak out and some are afraid to air their thoughts for fear of being attacked by people who refuse to allow divergence of opinion when it comes to Israel. You who want Jews who are opposed to Israeli policies of occupation want us to shut up just as those who opposed to the Vietnam War was told to "love it or leave it." Check out Jewish Voice for Peace and Muzzlewatch as well as Tikkun if you have the courage to see that there are Jews who speak out for peace with justice for both peoples. Check out Rabbis for Human Rights. Check out B'Tselem. Check out Machsom Watch. Maybe you will find out that all Jews do not march in lock step when it comes to Israel or to any other issue. If you don’t want to believe I am Jewish that is up to you. I know some of you can’t stand it when someone who is Jewish stands up for justice for both peoples, not just for Israelis. I guess I learned my values from my Jewish parents and grandparents who taught me that the tribe isn’t always right and that taking other people’s land isn’t exactly kosher.

As for being from another country, if you call New York another country I guess you might be correct. But I call New York part of the United States.

And once again, get it through your heads that there are more and more Jews who do not say that Israel speaks for them. Some speak out and some are afraid to air their thoughts for fear of being attacked by people who refuse to allow divergence of opinion when it comes to Israel. You who want Jews who are opposed to Israeli policies of occupation want us to shut up just as those who opposed to the Vietnam War was told to “love it or leave it.”

Check out Jewish Voice for Peace and Muzzlewatch as well as Tikkun if you have the courage to see that there are Jews who speak out for peace with justice for both peoples. Check out Rabbis for Human Rights. Check out B’Tselem. Check out Machsom Watch. Maybe you will find out that all Jews do not march in lock step when it comes to Israel or to any other issue.

]]> By: semsem http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313550 semsem Thu, 21 May 2009 14:27:30 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313550 Janice is not even Jewish. Janice is not even Jewish.

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313541 froylein Thu, 21 May 2009 12:31:58 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313541 Janice's grammatical errors make her out as either German, Dutch / Flemmish Belgian, or Scandinavian. They do have trolls in Scandinavian mythology. Janice’s grammatical errors make her out as either German, Dutch / Flemmish Belgian, or Scandinavian. They do have trolls in Scandinavian mythology.

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313499 themiddle Thu, 21 May 2009 06:05:23 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313499 Sorry, I believe - truly believe - that Janice is either a troll or an idiot. I am speaking the truth. I could hold back and argue, for example, the claim about professors being fired for left wing views by talking about which faction controls MESA (read: Juan Cole and his cronies) and who dominates academia, but considering the only example that comes to mind about a fired professor with views about Israel is that of Finkelstein, I find her comment to be trollish or stupid. Likewise with her comments about the Rachel Corrie play and other comments. Why do we need to respect every single person who comes here and makes silly remarks about Jewish power (or perceived abuse thereof)? Why can't I just pre-empt the BS by calling it as I see it? It's not civil? It's also not civil to come in here with discussions about Jewish power and we're not even to the part where I have to discuss the "land theft" and "Holocaust that brought Israel into being" comments. I welcome you to read serious discussions like the one in "Leaving the West Bank" where you see the respect with which serious comments are treated. Sorry, I believe – truly believe – that Janice is either a troll or an idiot. I am speaking the truth. I could hold back and argue, for example, the claim about professors being fired for left wing views by talking about which faction controls MESA (read: Juan Cole and his cronies) and who dominates academia, but considering the only example that comes to mind about a fired professor with views about Israel is that of Finkelstein, I find her comment to be trollish or stupid. Likewise with her comments about the Rachel Corrie play and other comments. Why do we need to respect every single person who comes here and makes silly remarks about Jewish power (or perceived abuse thereof)? Why can’t I just pre-empt the BS by calling it as I see it? It’s not civil? It’s also not civil to come in here with discussions about Jewish power and we’re not even to the part where I have to discuss the “land theft” and “Holocaust that brought Israel into being” comments.

I welcome you to read serious discussions like the one in “Leaving the West Bank” where you see the respect with which serious comments are treated.

]]> By: ck http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313498 ck Thu, 21 May 2009 05:59:13 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313498 Once again Lisa makes her point well and succinctly without resort to bombast. I too am unequivocally against cultural boycotts. But I won't watch any more Loach films bc life is too short to waste on that sort of tripe. As for his "peace" activism, he and his ilk with their one-sided approach are about as effective in promoting genuine lasting peace as... uhm... as something that is chronically ineffective. Too early to be funny. I was thinking one=armed juggler but that doesn't really work, does it? Once again Lisa makes her point well and succinctly without resort to bombast. I too am unequivocally against cultural boycotts. But I won’t watch any more Loach films bc life is too short to waste on that sort of tripe. As for his “peace” activism, he and his ilk with their one-sided approach are about as effective in promoting genuine lasting peace as… uhm… as something that is chronically ineffective. Too early to be funny. I was thinking one=armed juggler but that doesn’t really work, does it?

]]> By: Lisa Goldman http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313496 Lisa Goldman Thu, 21 May 2009 05:57:22 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313496 Oh come on, guys. There's no need to pile on to Janice. She has an opinion, she made her case and you can offer counter-arguments. But what's with the ad-hominem attacks? I expected more from the Jewlicious crowd. Oh come on, guys. There’s no need to pile on to Janice. She has an opinion, she made her case and you can offer counter-arguments. But what’s with the ad-hominem attacks? I expected more from the Jewlicious crowd.

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313453 themiddle Thu, 21 May 2009 01:37:11 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313453 Janice is either a troll or an idiot. Janice is either a troll or an idiot.

]]> By: xisnotx http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313450 xisnotx Thu, 21 May 2009 01:29:43 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313450 i dont think loach cares much about a hollywood star. i dont think loach cares much about a hollywood star.

]]> By: Rabbi Yonah http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313447 Rabbi Yonah Thu, 21 May 2009 01:06:35 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313447 Janice - The land of Israel was not stolen by Israelis. It belongs to the Jewish people. BUt we are big boys and can figure out a way to share. Palestinians are under occupation because the have refused peace, and warred with Israel. Remember Oslo? Camp David? They had peace - they choose war, time and time again. And regarding CK's admonition that Ken will never work in this town again, that is sarcasm. Janice –

The land of Israel was not stolen by Israelis. It belongs to the Jewish people. BUt we are big boys and can figure out a way to share.

Palestinians are under occupation because the have refused peace, and warred with Israel. Remember Oslo? Camp David? They had peace – they choose war, time and time again.

And regarding CK’s admonition that Ken will never work in this town again, that is sarcasm.

]]> By: AlexK http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313407 AlexK Wed, 20 May 2009 21:00:34 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313407 I think Janice and her other anti-Semitic "Jews" (ha!) should boycott Israel completely and stop using her Intel chip on her computer. Unless she's on an AMD chip, well, then, I'm sure the cell phone she uses was built by thieving Jews like me and my family in Israel. Janice, I can only hope that when the Jihadees get ALL of us Jews, you get to live an extra 5 minutes longer for your righteousness. Man, what I would give for that extra 5 minutes! I think Janice and her other anti-Semitic “Jews” (ha!) should boycott Israel completely and stop using her Intel chip on her computer. Unless she’s on an AMD chip, well, then, I’m sure the cell phone she uses was built by thieving Jews like me and my family in Israel. Janice, I can only hope that when the Jihadees get ALL of us Jews, you get to live an extra 5 minutes longer for your righteousness. Man, what I would give for that extra 5 minutes!

]]> By: Lisa Goldman http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313395 Lisa Goldman Wed, 20 May 2009 20:21:39 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313395 Oh please. You're all getting far too upset about this rather minor incident. Ken Loach is clearly a bit of a wanker - as they say in England. Does anyone actually watch his dreadful films? Voluntarily, I mean. Not that I support boycotting his films. That's a bit silly, given that the point of this post is to condemn him for boycotting an Israeli film. Cultural boycotts are counter-productive and morally dubious. Films are one of the best ways to humanize one another and build cross-cultural bridges between putative enemies. If Loach were genuinely interested in furthering peace, and if his only objective was to prevent the Israeli government from paying for the director's plane ticket, then he should have paid for it himself. Oh please. You’re all getting far too upset about this rather minor incident. Ken Loach is clearly a bit of a wanker – as they say in England. Does anyone actually watch his dreadful films? Voluntarily, I mean. Not that I support boycotting his films. That’s a bit silly, given that the point of this post is to condemn him for boycotting an Israeli film.

Cultural boycotts are counter-productive and morally dubious. Films are one of the best ways to humanize one another and build cross-cultural bridges between putative enemies. If Loach were genuinely interested in furthering peace, and if his only objective was to prevent the Israeli government from paying for the director’s plane ticket, then he should have paid for it himself.

]]> By: Janice http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313394 Janice Wed, 20 May 2009 20:00:50 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313394 ck, when you say that Ken Loach will never work in this town again I guess that you mean that Jews in the film industry have so much power that they can keep anyone from a job. Some might say a statement like that borders on anti-semitism. If you want, you can speak for the "greater Jewish community" but I well know that many Jews are upset with Israel and if the "greater Jewish community" wants to continue the brutal occupation, continue with the theft of land that does not belong to them, oppress another people who were in no way responsible for the Holocaust that brought Israel into being, then I have no desire to be part of the "greater Jewish community" nor do all the Jews I know, both friends and family. We chose to be part of the Jewish community with a conscience and with a desire for justice for both peoples. ck, when you say that Ken Loach will never work in this town again I guess that you mean that Jews in the film industry have so much power that they can keep anyone from a job. Some might say a statement like that borders on anti-semitism.

If you want, you can speak for the “greater Jewish community” but I well know that many Jews are upset with Israel and if the “greater Jewish community” wants to continue the brutal occupation, continue with the theft of land that does not belong to them, oppress another people who were in no way responsible for the Holocaust that brought Israel into being, then I have no desire to be part of the “greater Jewish community” nor do all the Jews I know, both friends and family. We chose to be part of the Jewish community with a conscience and with a desire for justice for both peoples.

]]> By: kal http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313375 kal Wed, 20 May 2009 17:43:44 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313375 couldn't have said it better myself,ck-more power to ya.Btw,janice,methinks the point is,there IS NO difference! couldn’t have said it better myself,ck-more power to ya.Btw,janice,methinks the point is,there IS NO difference!

]]> By: ck http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313371 ck Wed, 20 May 2009 17:03:56 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313371 Oh yeah definitely Janice. Fight the power. Yeah. Good on ya! I'm opposed to banning stuff. But allowing people to make an informed decision about where they spend their entertainment dollars is fine. And if they want to support a loathsome sack of shit like Ken Loach then so be it. You want to boycott Israel? Go ahead. I'll put my faith in the support of decent, fair minded individuals any day - your little boycott bullshit does not seem to be working though and you and your ilk will continue to be viewed as pariahs amongst the greater Jewish community. Mark my words - Ken Loach will never work in this town again. But by all means feel free to enjoy his pissant, effete and overwrought oeuvre. Oh yeah definitely Janice. Fight the power. Yeah. Good on ya!

I’m opposed to banning stuff. But allowing people to make an informed decision about where they spend their entertainment dollars is fine. And if they want to support a loathsome sack of shit like Ken Loach then so be it. You want to boycott Israel? Go ahead. I’ll put my faith in the support of decent, fair minded individuals any day – your little boycott bullshit does not seem to be working though and you and your ilk will continue to be viewed as pariahs amongst the greater Jewish community. Mark my words – Ken Loach will never work in this town again. But by all means feel free to enjoy his pissant, effete and overwrought oeuvre.

]]> By: Steve http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/05/memo-to-hollywood-boycott-ken-loach/#comment-1313369 Steve Wed, 20 May 2009 16:54:08 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=8528#comment-1313369 No, Ken Loach does not have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. No, Ken Loach does not have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

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