nu-uh.

Peace.

let it die!

(disclaimer as posted above still stands.)

froylein and I have exchanged emails and she plans to be in touch the next time she visits Israel. Then we can try to meet for a tête-à-tête, a la CK and Harlan (lehavdil). Preferably without the arak though unless CK joins us.

Zag, still waiting to hear from you…

Yes, you can contact me at the email address I used in the form.

I think that froleyn or salty will be honored with the final post.

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Funny that we now also are collectively responsible for busting a relatively new phenomenon in Jewish eschatology. I hope at least Sheryl Crow will get paid her due royalties.

Harlan is VERY VERY rude and VERY VERY VERY obnoxious. (he claims it to be a business strategy. whatever…)

2)

After a personal meeting (at which he seemed kinda nice for 240 minutes or so) with many of the posters in this tread, including Mr. Jewlicious, It seems that Harlan knows his stuff. (although there are other people/books in/on the planet that know much much much much much much much much much more.)

Zag, based on all the comments above can we agree that the two are correct?

If you can agree, then we can close this discussion.

Or is it just a way to generate continued interest in this post that should have died after The Cafe Aroma Challenge?

PS. Next time, PLEASE go to a place with a Mehadrin hechsher, so I can drink something!

(I mean Cafe Rimon was DOWN THE BLOCK!! AAAAAH!!)

That’s a strategy that would have worked better in the beginning.

No further comments here.

It not only summarizes my views on this post, it summarizes my feelings on the over all state of affairs in Israel.

My father-in-law loved to provoke questions at the Passover Seder. One year, he started to explain that there really wasn’t a Moshiach and that he would never come.

It’s sad to say but from what you guys on Jewlicious have done in the past week, I’d have to say he was right.

From being misquoted and attacked by people who never met me, here are the final thoughts I’d like to share.

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From the words of Sheryl Crow:

“Out Of Our Heads”

If you feel you wanna fight me
There’s a chain around your mind
When something is holding you tightly
What is real is so hard to find

Losing babies to genocide
Oh where’s the meaning in that plight
Can’t you see that we’ve really bought into
Every word they proclaimed and every lie, oh

If we could only get out of our heads, out of our heads
And into our hearts
If we could only get out of our heads, out of our heads
And into our hearts

Someone’s feeding on your anger
Someone’s been whispering in your ear
You’ve seen his face before
You’ve been played before
These aren’t the words you need to hear

Through the dawn of darkness blindly
You have blood upon your hands
All the world will treat you kindly
But only the heart can understand, oh understand

If we could only get out of our heads, out of our heads
And into our hearts
Children of Abraham lay down your fears, swallow your
Tears and look to your heart

If we could only get out of our heads, out of our heads
And into our hearts
Children of Abraham lay down your fears, swallow your
Tears and look to your heart

Every man is his own prophet
Oh every prophet just a man
I say all the women stand up, say yes to themselves
Teach your children best you can

Let every man bow to the best in himself
We’re not killing any more
We’re the wisest ones, everybody listen
‘Cause you can’t fight this feeling any more, oh anymore

If we could only get out of our heads, out of our heads
And into our hearts
Children of Abraham lay down your fears, swallow your
Tears and look to your heart

If we could only get out of our heads, out of our heads
And into our hearts
Children of Abraham lay down your fears, swallow your
Tears and look to your heart

Some of you (not all) have become like a little “gang” on here with your for-profit propaganda, and it’s taken on much of the color of your leader. But none of this makes you or he right nor justifies his foul behavior or your endorsement of it.

You can attempt to distract all you care to by attacking or being vile toward those who question him, but it only makes those questions stand out more.

How can you possibly overlook the outright NASTY comments originally made by Kilstein? How can you simply forget that “your boy” is a loose cannon of the nastiest sort? Is decency irrelevant now, or is he somehow exempt? Does that not indicate something about him, or is it just like putting on a shirt?

“It is a marketing strategy” is NOT a good or reasonable answer.

If you say Harlan is nice you are obviously one of his tag alongs.

its IMPOSSIBLE for someone to have never heard or met Harlan before actually go to a challenge posted here on jewlicious, and end up IMPRESSED.

All the peositive people posting WASTED their time because they have MUCH better information in the LIBRARY.

(nodding :lightbulb:)

Charlie, I’m not quite sure what you are getting at. I have learnt a lot in my life and still do learn a lot. Do you listen to any preacher on the street just because they are willing to teach?

And to both of you, unlike others on here, I’ve never claimed to be an internet marketing expert. What I could claim for myself is that I’m a critical consumer. As a critical consumer, I’ve raised points and questions that were not answered in a decent manner by people several decades my senior. Basically, those points and questions were not answered at all. What I received were condescension, mockery and insults of a pretty bad variety. If you think this accounts for legitimate expert behaviour and sound, quality responses, your choice again.

You seem to know it all. We mere mortals are open to learn from all who are willing to teach – yourself included.

You can not even hear when someone is trying to help you.