Comments on: Ham on Challah-Haram? http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/ It's a Jewish Blog! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:17:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BlacklistConservative http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1327119 BlacklistConservative Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:40:29 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1327119 I guess as long as you're not a Jew, you can eat it every day. Or if you don't keep kosher, same thing. I keep a simple to moderate form of kosherness, so eating pork on challah would cause some serious law breakage. Now if you were Israel ben Eliezer and you ate that sandwich, time would collapse, and the world would explode. I guess as long as you’re not a Jew, you can eat it every day. Or if you don’t keep kosher, same thing. I keep a simple to moderate form of kosherness, so eating pork on challah would cause some serious law breakage. Now if you were Israel ben Eliezer and you ate that sandwich, time would collapse, and the world would explode.

]]> By: vicki http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326786 vicki Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:56:59 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326786 What's the shmata thing, lori? Also, Ephraim, that sushi actually sounds pretty delish as a way to introduce it to kids, even if it's not the real crunchy tuna I ate yesterday. Rabbi Yonah, we purchased an ate a bag of pork-rind like potato chips on our way to Auschwitz. This was before we realized how bad the whole idea sounded. Our shaliach cried. spice, your comment was lovely. Thank you. What’s the shmata thing, lori?

Also, Ephraim, that sushi actually sounds pretty delish as a way to introduce it to kids, even if it’s not the real crunchy tuna I ate yesterday.

Rabbi Yonah, we purchased an ate a bag of pork-rind like potato chips on our way to Auschwitz. This was before we realized how bad the whole idea sounded. Our shaliach cried.

spice, your comment was lovely. Thank you.

]]> By: lori http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326660 lori Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:43:28 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326660 Let's leave Rachel Ray alone. She's had enough trouble from us Jews over that shmatta thing. Let’s leave Rachel Ray alone. She’s had enough trouble from us Jews over that shmatta thing.

]]> By: Ephraim http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326461 Ephraim Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:24:48 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326461 Well, I saw Martha Stewart making "sushi" for kids by taking white bread, cutting off the crusts, smearing mayonnaise on it, rolling up carrot and celery sticks inside (using an actual sushi rolling mat, no less), and then cutting it in rounds. And voila: "sushi"! If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I would not have believed that it was possible for a person to be so ignorant, especially someone who has made a career out of supposedly being an expert on culinary matters. It was just appalling. Cultural and culinary desecrations and sacrilege know no borders. But, yeah, chazzer on challah seems kinda gross. If the "challah" (by which I assume she means just egg bread) wasn't kosher to begin with, no harm no foul, though. Well, I saw Martha Stewart making “sushi” for kids by taking white bread, cutting off the crusts, smearing mayonnaise on it, rolling up carrot and celery sticks inside (using an actual sushi rolling mat, no less), and then cutting it in rounds.

And voila: “sushi”!

If I hadn’t seen it with my own eyes, I would not have believed that it was possible for a person to be so ignorant, especially someone who has made a career out of supposedly being an expert on culinary matters. It was just appalling.

Cultural and culinary desecrations and sacrilege know no borders.

But, yeah, chazzer on challah seems kinda gross.

If the “challah” (by which I assume she means just egg bread) wasn’t kosher to begin with, no harm no foul, though.

]]> By: Rabbi Yonah http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326449 Rabbi Yonah Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:34:18 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326449 In Poland, where we lived and worked for many years, they served a strange dish in certain places called "Szynka po Zydowsku" which translates as "Jewish Style Pork." In Poland, where we lived and worked for many years, they served a strange dish in certain places called “Szynka po Zydowsku” which translates as “Jewish Style Pork.”

]]> By: J. D. Edelman http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326423 J. D. Edelman Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:47:11 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326423 Vicki/Vered, I'm not fond of the pork/challah combo (especially if served--as I expect--with mayo and not mustard....). It gives me the same sort of icky feeling that I get when I hear a Jew telling a "Jew Joke" or when I see articles in The Forward about a website called "BaconJew." Totally wrong. But my perspective is kinda interesting b/c I used to (and still kinda do...) LOVE treyf, but started keeping kosher just a few years ago. I actually can't understand (now...after swearing off the stuff) why Jews eat treyf. I'm not baal t'shuva or even particularly weird. I'm not shomer shabbat, and I occasionally dream of pepperoni pizzas, but I just feel good keeping kosher. I'm just sayin. And would like to hear thoughts from anyone else who wants to comment. Vicki/Vered, I’m not fond of the pork/challah combo (especially if served–as I expect–with mayo and not mustard….). It gives me the same sort of icky feeling that I get when I hear a Jew telling a “Jew Joke” or when I see articles in The Forward about a website called “BaconJew.” Totally wrong.

But my perspective is kinda interesting b/c I used to (and still kinda do…) LOVE treyf, but started keeping kosher just a few years ago. I actually can’t understand (now…after swearing off the stuff) why Jews eat treyf. I’m not baal t’shuva or even particularly weird. I’m not shomer shabbat, and I occasionally dream of pepperoni pizzas, but I just feel good keeping kosher.

I’m just sayin. And would like to hear thoughts from anyone else who wants to comment.

]]> By: vicki http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326404 vicki Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:34:36 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326404 Middle, Vasya is the diminutive nickname for someone whose full name is Vasiliy. Middle, Vasya is the diminutive nickname for someone whose full name is Vasiliy.

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326351 froylein Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:23:03 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326351 LB, I was staying with an absolutely non-religious Russian family when I was in Israel, so I got fed "cheese" (something in red and white wrapping paper with blue palm trees on it) with double-cream and sugar, a layered cake soaking in honey and loaded with nuts, pancakes with red caviar and something with aubergine and tomatoes on fish. LB, I was staying with an absolutely non-religious Russian family when I was in Israel, so I got fed “cheese” (something in red and white wrapping paper with blue palm trees on it) with double-cream and sugar, a layered cake soaking in honey and loaded with nuts, pancakes with red caviar and something with aubergine and tomatoes on fish.

]]> By: LB http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326349 LB Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:18:22 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326349 froylein, I really was only joking. I know the modern version of Challah is nothing new or original. Have you ever had the Israeli cheap version of Challah? It's very different from the sweet braided loaves most commonly recognized. froylein, I really was only joking. I know the modern version of Challah is nothing new or original. Have you ever had the Israeli cheap version of Challah? It’s very different from the sweet braided loaves most commonly recognized.

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326346 froylein Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:13:47 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326346 LB, it's (the type of bread) the early Zionist export to the Middle East and used to be the Sundaybread of the pauper. (It's still called Sonntagsstuten in a few areas.) It has got a lot of names, depending on where you are; in my village and a few close it's called "Platz", but there also is "Stuten", "Zopf" / "Zopp" (= braid), brioche in France etc. The word "challah" is of Biblical origin and was later used for those breads, too. A rather weird but popular combination is a raisin variety with liverwurst. A friend of mine even puts honey on top of that. BTW, the round ones for New Year's also exist here, but they are wreaths, a Celtic symbol denoting longevity and perfection (also to confuse any evil spirits as they supposedly don't find the exit in a wreath). LB, it’s (the type of bread) the early Zionist export to the Middle East and used to be the Sundaybread of the pauper. (It’s still called Sonntagsstuten in a few areas.) It has got a lot of names, depending on where you are; in my village and a few close it’s called “Platz”, but there also is “Stuten”, “Zopf” / “Zopp” (= braid), brioche in France etc. The word “challah” is of Biblical origin and was later used for those breads, too. A rather weird but popular combination is a raisin variety with liverwurst. A friend of mine even puts honey on top of that. BTW, the round ones for New Year’s also exist here, but they are wreaths, a Celtic symbol denoting longevity and perfection (also to confuse any evil spirits as they supposedly don’t find the exit in a wreath).

]]> By: LB http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326328 LB Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:26:53 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326328 That depends. Was Challa pronounced like the c-h in change? In that case, it all makes sense... And of course, Challah is best used for french toast, anyway. That depends. Was Challa pronounced like the c-h in change? In that case, it all makes sense…

And of course, Challah is best used for french toast, anyway.

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326290 froylein Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:15:57 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326290 Or when CK was offered arak with gefilte fish... The original European breads that challah stems from are usually eaten just pure or with jam or Nutella or similar. I like them with British orange marmelade and dark chocolate spread, e.g. by Godiva. Or when CK was offered arak with gefilte fish…

The original European breads that challah stems from are usually eaten just pure or with jam or Nutella or similar. I like them with British orange marmelade and dark chocolate spread, e.g. by Godiva.

]]> By: themiddle http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326288 themiddle Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:08:21 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326288 What does Vasya mean? Yes, there's something very wrong with pork on challah, but in a multicultural world, it makes sense. I wonder if this is the same as the Chinese felt when the first kosher chinese food appeared. What does Vasya mean?

Yes, there’s something very wrong with pork on challah, but in a multicultural world, it makes sense.

I wonder if this is the same as the Chinese felt when the first kosher chinese food appeared.

]]> By: *ukrainian princess* http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326278 *ukrainian princess* Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:16:13 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326278 I call my nephew "Vasya"..surprisingly he doesn't get offended .., does Mr.B? :) I call my nephew “Vasya”..surprisingly he doesn’t get offended .., does Mr.B? :)

]]> By: spice http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326270 spice Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:28:30 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326270 you can eat challah whenever you please, and i thought Vered is a lovely name. you can eat challah whenever you please, and i thought Vered is a lovely name.

]]> By: vicki http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326269 vicki Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:25:56 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326269 Not referring to mock shrimp, Cat. I don't keep kosher. Not referring to mock shrimp, Cat. I don’t keep kosher.

]]> By: Cat K http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/ham-on-challah-haram/#comment-1326244 Cat K Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:53:02 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=9069#comment-1326244 if you're eating Ray's sandwhich, please first turn in your Jewish badge....(i assume you refer to mock shrimp- which I wouldn't eat anyhoo). if you’re eating Ray’s sandwhich, please first turn in your Jewish badge….(i assume you refer to mock shrimp- which I wouldn’t eat anyhoo).

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