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	<title>Comments on: Messianic &#8220;Rabbi&#8221; School on Facebook</title>
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		<title>By: Yuri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, sorry if it took a racist conception, but that&#039;s law and nothnig less than it.



correction:from jewish belly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, sorry if it took a racist conception, but that&#8217;s law and nothnig less than it.</p>
<p>correction:from jewish belly</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/06/messianic-rabbi-school-on-facebook/comment-page-2/#comment-1341519</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was told me whole f***ing life that you&#039;re a jew if you have come from a jewish belli (ie:Mother, grandmother, grandgrand mother)
if the born jew belives in jesus, he still being a jew, but with a wrong conception IMO.
if he born elsewhere but he pratices judaism, and/or belives in jesus, he is not a jew, simply as that.

about chabad...well you can think what you want but inside Chabad(at leas here in Brazil) we are preparing world to the Messiach, wich means...Menachem Mendel is not him, actually i&#039;ve never knew any chabad jew here that says Menachem is the Messiach, really.

btw i like Chabad , because they came from the biggest city of my country to almost nowere to teach me.

So between comparing Chabad with Messianic...there is a giant gap gents.

those were my 2 cents.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was told me whole f***ing life that you&#8217;re a jew if you have come from a jewish belli (ie:Mother, grandmother, grandgrand mother)<br />
if the born jew belives in jesus, he still being a jew, but with a wrong conception IMO.<br />
if he born elsewhere but he pratices judaism, and/or belives in jesus, he is not a jew, simply as that.</p>
<p>about chabad&#8230;well you can think what you want but inside Chabad(at leas here in Brazil) we are preparing world to the Messiach, wich means&#8230;Menachem Mendel is not him, actually i&#8217;ve never knew any chabad jew here that says Menachem is the Messiach, really.</p>
<p>btw i like Chabad , because they came from the biggest city of my country to almost nowere to teach me.</p>
<p>So between comparing Chabad with Messianic&#8230;there is a giant gap gents.</p>
<p>those were my 2 cents.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Ephraim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ephraim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He lives in the Emerald City with the munchkins, Jeffrey.

At least that&#039;s what the Magic Unicorn told me, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He lives in the Emerald City with the munchkins, Jeffrey.</p>
<p>At least that&#8217;s what the Magic Unicorn told me, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rabbi Yonah, 
Brother Keep the faith. Many are saying that Chritians,Jews and Muslims serve the same God and that there are many paths. We know there is only one path and one truth which is Christ. God Bless you... Help me out I&#039;m looking for a Priest from the Order of Melchizedek and his name is Eliyahu Yehoshua Cohen Gadol Ben Melchizedek or Priest Elijah Joshua. Do you know where I can find him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbi Yonah,<br />
Brother Keep the faith. Many are saying that Chritians,Jews and Muslims serve the same God and that there are many paths. We know there is only one path and one truth which is Christ. God Bless you&#8230; Help me out I&#8217;m looking for a Priest from the Order of Melchizedek and his name is Eliyahu Yehoshua Cohen Gadol Ben Melchizedek or Priest Elijah Joshua. Do you know where I can find him?</p>
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		<title>By: Emerald Falcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emerald Falcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it possible for MAN to decide who is or isn&#039;t in the spiritual family of Israel?

Can man presume to take gods place on this? 

Is it right for man to decide how or when the messiah was/is to come, and what form? The messiah is a jewish belief. 

And christians might as well be a sect of judaism... they believe that the messiah.... again a jewish belief... has come already. Who&#039;s to say he did or didnt ... god... or man?

God decides who is a daughter or son of Abraham NOT man! God desides who is &quot;jewish&quot;. Didn&#039;t he allow people leaving Egypt during the exodus to be &quot;in the family&quot; How many wifes in that encampment may have been egyptian?

I am not advocating either side, but MAN deciding what god is to do is a sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it possible for MAN to decide who is or isn&#8217;t in the spiritual family of Israel?</p>
<p>Can man presume to take gods place on this? </p>
<p>Is it right for man to decide how or when the messiah was/is to come, and what form? The messiah is a jewish belief. </p>
<p>And christians might as well be a sect of judaism&#8230; they believe that the messiah&#8230;. again a jewish belief&#8230; has come already. Who&#8217;s to say he did or didnt &#8230; god&#8230; or man?</p>
<p>God decides who is a daughter or son of Abraham NOT man! God desides who is &#8220;jewish&#8221;. Didn&#8217;t he allow people leaving Egypt during the exodus to be &#8220;in the family&#8221; How many wifes in that encampment may have been egyptian?</p>
<p>I am not advocating either side, but MAN deciding what god is to do is a sin.</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha ha. Kelsey, you&#039;re so cute. When you come here we can taunt the Breslovers at their Yeshiva down the street from my house. Man you are such a hard core Litvak! The Vilna Gaon would have been proud! Had you gone to a nice &quot;Misnaged&quot; Yeshiva like Mir, how different things would have been today. Then you could have davened nussach Ashkenaz, then sat around with your buddies making fun of Hassidim, their poor level of scholarship and the quasi-deification of their Rabeim. At least then we wouldn&#039;t have to hear about Unitarianism and your love of smegma. I like you because you&#039;re like the poster boy for why everyone should be Sephardic. Moroccan Sephardic in fact, although we will give Broygez a pass because she&#039;s adorable and puts up with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha ha. Kelsey, you&#8217;re so cute. When you come here we can taunt the Breslovers at their Yeshiva down the street from my house. Man you are such a hard core Litvak! The Vilna Gaon would have been proud! Had you gone to a nice &#8220;Misnaged&#8221; Yeshiva like Mir, how different things would have been today. Then you could have davened nussach Ashkenaz, then sat around with your buddies making fun of Hassidim, their poor level of scholarship and the quasi-deification of their Rabeim. At least then we wouldn&#8217;t have to hear about Unitarianism and your love of smegma. I like you because you&#8217;re like the poster boy for why everyone should be Sephardic. Moroccan Sephardic in fact, although we will give Broygez a pass because she&#8217;s adorable and puts up with you.</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who claims the world is less than 6,000 years old is denying the imprint of God because he worships men (Gedolim). These people are not Monotheists. At least the Christians only worship one man. They are kind of like Breslov,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who claims the world is less than 6,000 years old is denying the imprint of God because he worships men (Gedolim). These people are not Monotheists. At least the Christians only worship one man. They are kind of like Breslov,</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would take the complaints against Messianic Jews more seriously by traditionalists if they took a stand against the Messianic wing of Chabad. 

Additionally, the fact is, large swaths of Big Kiruv are deceptive in both tactics and revisionism. Some blatantly lie, and knowingly lie. They even justify this as &quot;pakuach nefesh&quot; -- saving a soul. You know, &quot;making them frum.&quot;

A major problem with the Messianics is that they are simply too frum. They are fundies with a New Religion bent. While I wouldn&#039;t call that Judaism, I am quite frankly bothered that only a small segment of Liberal Jews are willing to take a stand against the Messianic wing of Chabad in a serious way,

So. Let&#039;s exclude the Messianics, but let&#039;s also exclude all of the haredim who worship Gedolim like the Avodah Zorahniks they are. 

Between right-wing Orthodox Judaism, Jews for Jesus, and Unitarianism, I would choose the last religious group for my descendants, as it is far closer to the paradigm of my ancestors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would take the complaints against Messianic Jews more seriously by traditionalists if they took a stand against the Messianic wing of Chabad. </p>
<p>Additionally, the fact is, large swaths of Big Kiruv are deceptive in both tactics and revisionism. Some blatantly lie, and knowingly lie. They even justify this as &#8220;pakuach nefesh&#8221; &#8212; saving a soul. You know, &#8220;making them frum.&#8221;</p>
<p>A major problem with the Messianics is that they are simply too frum. They are fundies with a New Religion bent. While I wouldn&#8217;t call that Judaism, I am quite frankly bothered that only a small segment of Liberal Jews are willing to take a stand against the Messianic wing of Chabad in a serious way,</p>
<p>So. Let&#8217;s exclude the Messianics, but let&#8217;s also exclude all of the haredim who worship Gedolim like the Avodah Zorahniks they are. </p>
<p>Between right-wing Orthodox Judaism, Jews for Jesus, and Unitarianism, I would choose the last religious group for my descendants, as it is far closer to the paradigm of my ancestors.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some  Christians believe in a &#039;Church&#039; but there isn&#039;t such thing in the letters but &#039;eklesia&#039; or &#039;Congregation&#039;, the Kehila of Israel. So this christians thought that this eklesia was &#039;made up&#039; to replace to Israel, they  conclude that the &#039;New covenant&#039; of the christians would replace the old covenant of the Jews. 

Read this with a full Jewish thoughts: &quot;I will put my laws into their minds,  and write them on their hearts&quot; Paul quoting Isaiah 54 in Hebrew 8:10. And the christians said this chapter teach about the abrogation of the &#039;old covenant&#039;! and moreover Jesus said that he didn&#039;t come to abrogate the mizvot but to fulfill them like any Jew have to do starting with his talmidim. 

All this theology was develop three hundred years after Paul wrote his letters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some  Christians believe in a &#8216;Church&#8217; but there isn&#8217;t such thing in the letters but &#8216;eklesia&#8217; or &#8216;Congregation&#8217;, the Kehila of Israel. So this christians thought that this eklesia was &#8216;made up&#8217; to replace to Israel, they  conclude that the &#8216;New covenant&#8217; of the christians would replace the old covenant of the Jews. </p>
<p>Read this with a full Jewish thoughts: &#8220;I will put my laws into their minds,  and write them on their hearts&#8221; Paul quoting Isaiah 54 in Hebrew 8:10. And the christians said this chapter teach about the abrogation of the &#8216;old covenant&#8217;! and moreover Jesus said that he didn&#8217;t come to abrogate the mizvot but to fulfill them like any Jew have to do starting with his talmidim. </p>
<p>All this theology was develop three hundred years after Paul wrote his letters.</p>
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		<title>By: froylein</title>
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		<dc:creator>froylein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright, I&#039;m too tired to address this in detail, but again, CK, you bring up matters of a fargonne past that have since undergone a long development of theological readings and perceptions. Christianity has changed and so has Judaism. Most Christians as per the theologies of the denominations they adhere to don&#039;t believe the &quot;new convenant&quot; makes the old one void. Those that still keep to that notion are a tiny group (oooops, Evangelicals again, but those are &quot;good for Israel&quot;) among the world&#039;s Christian population.

Ephraim, your explanation on the idea of a Jewish messiah person clearly echoes diaspora theology. I&#039;ve explained this before. If you still haven&#039;t read the article in the Jewish Encyclopaedia, there&#039;s no basis to take and answer any questions from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, I&#8217;m too tired to address this in detail, but again, CK, you bring up matters of a fargonne past that have since undergone a long development of theological readings and perceptions. Christianity has changed and so has Judaism. Most Christians as per the theologies of the denominations they adhere to don&#8217;t believe the &#8220;new convenant&#8221; makes the old one void. Those that still keep to that notion are a tiny group (oooops, Evangelicals again, but those are &#8220;good for Israel&#8221;) among the world&#8217;s Christian population.</p>
<p>Ephraim, your explanation on the idea of a Jewish messiah person clearly echoes diaspora theology. I&#8217;ve explained this before. If you still haven&#8217;t read the article in the Jewish Encyclopaedia, there&#8217;s no basis to take and answer any questions from.</p>
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