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	<title>Comments on: Momo and Birthright Israel: Splitsville?</title>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/07/momo-and-birthright-israel-splitsville/comment-page-2/#comment-1349274</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, well Karen/Israel, I believe that excuse has been used before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, well Karen/Israel, I believe that excuse has been used before.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I told my friend that but HE WOULDNT LISTEN. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I told my friend that but HE WOULDNT LISTEN. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/07/momo-and-birthright-israel-splitsville/comment-page-2/#comment-1349270</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, Karen K. and Israel I, we can see that you&#039;re writing from the same computer. It kinda takes away from any confidence we have in what you&#039;ve told us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, Karen K. and Israel I, we can see that you&#8217;re writing from the same computer. It kinda takes away from any confidence we have in what you&#8217;ve told us.</p>
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		<title>By: Israel I.</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/07/momo-and-birthright-israel-splitsville/comment-page-2/#comment-1349256</link>
		<dc:creator>Israel I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i went on an oranim trip and it was crazy! we had so much fun! there was a different girl in my room every night. the counselors were even bringing my breakfast up to my room to get me out of bed. and i went on oranim because my friends told me it was trip that i could get wasted and screw around on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i went on an oranim trip and it was crazy! we had so much fun! there was a different girl in my room every night. the counselors were even bringing my breakfast up to my room to get me out of bed. and i went on oranim because my friends told me it was trip that i could get wasted and screw around on.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran an Oranim Birthright trip two winters ago, and I have ran 5 other trips from different organizers. So, I have the street cred. to say the following bullet points:

- Oranims trips ARE party trips and attract a &quot;lower class&quot; of participants. Its not Oranims fault! They rely on word of mouth and so from one party animals mouth to the other...you get the picture.
- Oranim is messy as a company on the whole. They act like theyr&#039;e pros, but their staff is rude and unhelpful. 
- Momo is 100% Israeli and wont soften himself for Americans. This leads to huge culture shock. When he gave his &quot;only date Jews&quot; speech to my bus I had 2 Russians go ape bananas mad over it. Theyr&#039;e mother wasn&#039;t a Jew and were insulted.

My opinion:
I never liked Oranims trips and I think they SUCK at running Birthrights(yes people with degrees can be childish and blunt too). Can anyone recall their wholesome nickname? However, I was PROUD when Momo gave his &quot;only date Jews&quot; and &quot;make Jewish babies&quot; speec. He is the only one who has enough huevos to state the most important factor in Jewish survival. In fact I have often thought that if I became Madame President Taglit-Birthright Israel I would add a little required check box to my application that says, &quot;I PROMISE TO DATE JEWISH, MARRY JEWISH, AND RAISE MY BABIES JEWISH.&quot; In the end you can&#039;t really hold anyone accountable for checking that box, but at least, like Momo, I&#039;d have done my part for the Tribe. If it bugs some Americans I guess my response to them is to grow up. Not everything in life is as pleasant as pie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran an Oranim Birthright trip two winters ago, and I have ran 5 other trips from different organizers. So, I have the street cred. to say the following bullet points:</p>
<p>- Oranims trips ARE party trips and attract a &#8220;lower class&#8221; of participants. Its not Oranims fault! They rely on word of mouth and so from one party animals mouth to the other&#8230;you get the picture.<br />
- Oranim is messy as a company on the whole. They act like theyr&#8217;e pros, but their staff is rude and unhelpful.<br />
- Momo is 100% Israeli and wont soften himself for Americans. This leads to huge culture shock. When he gave his &#8220;only date Jews&#8221; speech to my bus I had 2 Russians go ape bananas mad over it. Theyr&#8217;e mother wasn&#8217;t a Jew and were insulted.</p>
<p>My opinion:<br />
I never liked Oranims trips and I think they SUCK at running Birthrights(yes people with degrees can be childish and blunt too). Can anyone recall their wholesome nickname? However, I was PROUD when Momo gave his &#8220;only date Jews&#8221; and &#8220;make Jewish babies&#8221; speec. He is the only one who has enough huevos to state the most important factor in Jewish survival. In fact I have often thought that if I became Madame President Taglit-Birthright Israel I would add a little required check box to my application that says, &#8220;I PROMISE TO DATE JEWISH, MARRY JEWISH, AND RAISE MY BABIES JEWISH.&#8221; In the end you can&#8217;t really hold anyone accountable for checking that box, but at least, like Momo, I&#8217;d have done my part for the Tribe. If it bugs some Americans I guess my response to them is to grow up. Not everything in life is as pleasant as pie.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/07/momo-and-birthright-israel-splitsville/comment-page-2/#comment-1348786</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, ND, click on this:

http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/register-for-your-free-birthright-israel-trip-today-now/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, ND, click on this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/register-for-your-free-birthright-israel-trip-today-now/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/register-for-your-free-birthright-israel-trip-today-now/'>jewlicious.com...</a></p>
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		<title>By: ND</title>
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		<dc:creator>ND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to sign up for a trip for this winter and was hoping to go one Oranim which organizer runs a similar program? Thanks</description>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>avi, when you have information like that, you need to tell Failed Messiah or myself. ck will not do anything with this type of information, because he doesn&#039;t understand (or believe?) how devastating this type of Kiruv deception can be to young lives. 

Not that this story has come out in the Forward, thanks in part to people of good faith and heavy conscience within Taglit itself, we can have the public conversation we need to have as to whether or not ecumenical Jewish organizations should be handing over innocent Jews who have harmed no one to the insatiable furnace that is the Dark Light.

http://www.forward.com/articles/112920/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>avi, when you have information like that, you need to tell Failed Messiah or myself. ck will not do anything with this type of information, because he doesn&#8217;t understand (or believe?) how devastating this type of Kiruv deception can be to young lives. </p>
<p>Not that this story has come out in the Forward, thanks in part to people of good faith and heavy conscience within Taglit itself, we can have the public conversation we need to have as to whether or not ecumenical Jewish organizations should be handing over innocent Jews who have harmed no one to the insatiable furnace that is the Dark Light.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/112920/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.forward.com/articles/112920/'>forward.com/ar...</a></p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm... thanks Momo. As per the request, p to the e is in fact writing from the US.

Pandaface: I&#039;ve led or been involved with trips with 4 Birthright trip providers. All were geared towards secular unaffiliated participants. I&#039;ve led what, 6? 7? trips with Oranim and your descriptions ie &quot;more partying and less content&quot; are grossly out of line with my experience. You might want to explain how you came by your highly suspect information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm&#8230; thanks Momo. As per the request, p to the e is in fact writing from the US.</p>
<p>Pandaface: I&#8217;ve led or been involved with trips with 4 Birthright trip providers. All were geared towards secular unaffiliated participants. I&#8217;ve led what, 6? 7? trips with Oranim and your descriptions ie &#8220;more partying and less content&#8221; are grossly out of line with my experience. You might want to explain how you came by your highly suspect information.</p>
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		<title>By: momo</title>
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		<dc:creator>momo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shalom  from  home !!!

I  am  here  reading  all  of  this.

My  heart  is  clean .  I  gave  100%  of  myself  and  my  great people , both  sides  of  the  ocean ,to  strengh Jewish  identity  and  the  relationship  with  Israel.

I  left  with  tears.  i  am  not  happy. I  did  not  wanted  to  leave  i  was  forced  to  do  so.

Thank  you  all  for  your  support  it  means  a lot  to  me

momo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shalom  from  home !!!</p>
<p>I  am  here  reading  all  of  this.</p>
<p>My  heart  is  clean .  I  gave  100%  of  myself  and  my  great people , both  sides  of  the  ocean ,to  strengh Jewish  identity  and  the  relationship  with  Israel.</p>
<p>I  left  with  tears.  i  am  not  happy. I  did  not  wanted  to  leave  i  was  forced  to  do  so.</p>
<p>Thank  you  all  for  your  support  it  means  a lot  to  me</p>
<p>momo</p>
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