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An excellent resource about the economics of tunneling.

Of course Egyptians haven’t asked ISMers to “protect them.” That’s because the tunnellers used orchards to hide their tunnels on the Egyptian side because, as the article I posted shows, getting caught in Egypt meant death.

I’m sure you see the irony.

As for the fact she was in front of a house that had no tunnels, that isn’t material. She should not have been there. The Israelis were trying to contain smuggling of arms in that area. She was assisting those who were trying to stop the Israelis and, even if their intentions were merely to “save” homes (may be true of Corrie but questionable regarding the ISM which has openly endorsed violent resistance to Israel) and thereby helping the smugglers. This isn’t a game, it’s a war.

As for farmers asking for protection from international volunteers, let me know when those volunteers come to areas surrounding Gaza like Sderot or the agricultural fields of the Western Negev to protect those residents. They had how many years to go over there and show solidarity with innocent civilian victims of the types of tunnels the IDF was trying to destroy in Gaza? Did they show up in Israel or did they show up in Gaza?

The hypocrisy of the international left knows few bounds.

Any ISMers on the Egyptian side of the border?

i’m not sure I understand the point of this? Have Egyptians requested the ISM protect them?

can i see your source? not that I doubt it. Even that being the case, she died protecting a house with no tunnel, & the army concurs there was no tunnel under the house. so I’m not sure what you’re point is there either.

Do Palestinian civilians have the right to ask for protection by international volunteers? How about these farmers who get fired at while they’re farming? youtube.com/wa...

-sent by xisnotx at 9:32 am Aug. 1st 2009

Any ISMers on the Egyptian side of the border?

Actively aiding and abetting the terrorist war against Israel and preventing the IDF from doing what it needs to do to protect Israeli citizens from terrorist attacks, which is what Corrie was doing, does, however.

What this video shows, is that the time for open discourse we’re never credited for in the first place, is long over, as it’s been abused. Propaganda/libels have replaced the truth. We’re witnessing a disturbed pathology where people have adopted a lifestyle, and persona, where to their thinking, they’re not just opposing a Jewish State, they’re opposing this imagined notion of a diabolical combination of Nazis, South African Apartheid, national supremacism, Theocratic world Colonialism, all rolled into one.

Forget debating if Rachel Corrie was a peace martyr or a dunce acting as a human shield for a gun smuggling hole… Our ability to simply be pro-Israel openly and give what was a fairly moderate, judicial speech has been marginalized. THAT is now the issue here.

I don’t know where Ari was able to interpret that the audience’s applause at the end was “sarcastic”. But I will correct him that the loudest applause BY FAR came at the mention of Jewish Voice for Peace and American Friends Service Committee. That reveals the makeup of a very large part of the audience.

Also, if you review the text of my speech (posted at bluetruth.net/...)– I did not imply that Corrie was responsible for her death. On the other hand, I absolutely implied that the ISM held a significant responsibility for it. There’s a big difference there. Also I did not say that a film should not be shown if it criticizes Israeli policy; I said that a film shouldn’t be shown if it demonizes Israel (and this film certainly did that) and if it was cosponsored by groups that support boycotts/divestment/sanctions against Israel– and very obviously, the applause at the mention of BDS was IN FAVOR of that tactic.
(If anyone would like to hear me criticize Israeli policies regarding failure to take down illegal outposts, regarding haredim who won’t serve either in the IDF or in national service, regarding the failure to provide equal social, educational and infrastructure services to Arab Israelis, etc. I will be happy to correspond with you. But anyone who has seen this film knows that it goes well beyond “criticism of policy”.)

Having regularly confronted many of these same people in public demonstrations on the streets of the Bay Area for a few years now, I will also throw in one other political comment, for what it’s worth:

I support two states for two peoples, a Jewish state of Israel and an Arab state of Palestine, in mutual recognition and without threats to eliminate the other. Those who were heckling me? They will not agree to that.