Comments on: Counsellor and one Teen Killed in Tel Aviv Gay Community Center Attack

By: bob kunst

bob kunst — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:29:00 +0000

We at Shalom International and defendjerusale... strongly condemn this heinous act and our prayers are with the victims families. Many of us are religious and killing is forbidden by the Torah. Real Jews don’t kill other Jews and real Jews don’t divide Israel and Jerusalem for politics either.

By: Ben-David

Ben-David — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:50:11 +0000

I would be more sympathetic if the GLBT community – and the media – had not immediately begun a shrill anti-religious campaign, before we even know who did this.
As Mike points out, it is likely to be someone already connected with the center, who knows the schedule.

When calls for “tolerance” are mixed with such strong messages of hate and stereotyping of others – my Ironic Bullshit Detector starts beeping.

So the people who usually tell The Rest of Us to “not rush to judgment” after Pali terror attacks – now rush headlong into judgment, condemnation, and demonization.

It must be wonderful to always be right…

By: Joshua

Joshua — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:01:57 +0000

Yeah, the use of the word “club” was a bit confusing. Now that you qualified it, I have to say it’s definitely a hate crime, not a mob hit.

By: Rabbi Yonah

Rabbi Yonah — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:50:32 +0000

There are sick people out there. Mentally ill people. And they do terrible things.

My condolences to the families of the victims – and prayers to those who were injured.

By: Dan

Dan — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:07:43 +0000

p.s.

The New York Times had the story “above the fold” on their Website at 5:46 p.m. EDT yesterday.

By: Dan

Dan — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:45:13 +0000

First, and most important, I’m also with CK on this one.

Also, it’s a pity the storytellers of the Jewish world don’t feel this is newsworthy.

Oh wait, sorry about that, it’s Sunday. Doesn’t matter this horrible murder was about 18 hours ago.

Someone should tell Mark Joffe to amend his most recent missive: “Backed by the comprehensive, global reporting of JTA…” to as long as the story happens during the New York business week….

By: Diane

Diane — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:37:15 +0000

This makes me physically ill, what a shame. My prayers are with the victims and their families.

By: Abu Zibby

Abu Zibby — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:09:04 +0000

Mike, I also though it could never happen in T”A. But homophobic attacks happen quite often in Israel. The Israeli society isn’t very tolerant to GBLTs, only Tel Aviv is.

By: Mike Darnell

Mike Darnell — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 07:07:44 +0000

I’m with CK on this one.
You pretty much summed up exactly how I feel.

I’d like to make two clarifications:

1.
The use of the word “club” might be confusing to some.
CK’s header is spot on: The shooting took place in Tel Aviv’s Gay and Lesbian Association’s building, in a basement room where gay teenagers were holding their weekly support group. There was nothing gangland related about this whatsoever.The Assassin knew exactly where he was going and who he was targeting.

2.
Since this is was a weekly meeting for teens most of the wounded were minors, as was one of the casualties.

Source: haaretz.com/ha...

Lord knows I’m a cynic but had you told me yesterday something like this could happen in Israel I would have said “never”. The last time I felt this way was in 1995 after Rabin was assassinated.

By: The Moderate Voice

The Moderate Voice — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:49:41 +0000

UPDATE 2: Attack on Gay Teenagers in Tel Aviv Kills 3, Wounds 10-15…

UPDATE:
J POST:
Three people were killed and 14 people were wounded – two seriously, three moderately and the rest lightly – in a shooting at the Bar Noir, a center for youth run by the Tel Aviv gay community, on Saturday night.
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