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	<title>Comments on: Ebert and Fonda on the Film Festival &#8220;Protest&#8221; nee Boycott</title>
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		<title>By: xisnotx</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/ebert-and-fonda-on-the-film-festival-protest-nee-boycott/#comment-1350321</link>
		<dc:creator>xisnotx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ebert&#039;s seen the statements from the TIFF organizers, they were posted in his comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ebert&#8217;s seen the statements from the TIFF organizers, they were posted in his comments.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/ebert-and-fonda-on-the-film-festival-protest-nee-boycott/#comment-1350316</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
Nope, somebody else is going to have to tell Ebert that he&#039;s been re-educated by the wrong people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, somebody else is going to have to tell Ebert that he&#8217;s been re-educated by the wrong people.</p>
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		<title>By: Long Live the King</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/ebert-and-fonda-on-the-film-festival-protest-nee-boycott/#comment-1350315</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Live the King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ebert relies on what he was told after he wrote his article. He should talk to the TIFF organizers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ebert relies on what he was told after he wrote his article. He should talk to the TIFF organizers.</p>
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		<title>By: xisnotx</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/ebert-and-fonda-on-the-film-festival-protest-nee-boycott/#comment-1350310</link>
		<dc:creator>xisnotx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a simple way to hide your IP:  http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html

Ebert may not be God, but he&#039;s one of the better-known film critics. he&#039;s someone who&#039;s gonna be familiar w/the politics of film festivals &amp; the selection process, so I find it interesting he concludes: &quot;The Festival should never have agreed to be used like this.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a simple way to hide your IP:  <a href="http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html'>anonymouse.org...</a></p>
<p>Ebert may not be God, but he&#8217;s one of the better-known film critics. he&#8217;s someone who&#8217;s gonna be familiar w/the politics of film festivals &amp; the selection process, so I find it interesting he concludes: &#8220;The Festival should never have agreed to be used like this.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/ebert-and-fonda-on-the-film-festival-protest-nee-boycott/#comment-1350298</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IPs are the issue, not monikers. And no, I don&#039;t have a proxy and don&#039;t feel like getting one.

Ebert isn&#039;t God and I&#039;m not going to chase him down. I quoted him because what he wrote made very good sense. He seems to have been misinformed by someone about a supposed conspiracy that Cameron Bailey and TIFF have denied publicly. 

He can find the information here, in the comment above, but it won&#039;t be me who extends the invitation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IPs are the issue, not monikers. And no, I don&#8217;t have a proxy and don&#8217;t feel like getting one.</p>
<p>Ebert isn&#8217;t God and I&#8217;m not going to chase him down. I quoted him because what he wrote made very good sense. He seems to have been misinformed by someone about a supposed conspiracy that Cameron Bailey and TIFF have denied publicly. </p>
<p>He can find the information here, in the comment above, but it won&#8217;t be me who extends the invitation.</p>
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		<title>By: xisnotx</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/ebert-and-fonda-on-the-film-festival-protest-nee-boycott/#comment-1350296</link>
		<dc:creator>xisnotx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No, I like to keep my identity to myself.&quot; 

?

you can post under any moniker you like there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No, I like to keep my identity to myself.&#8221; </p>
<p>?</p>
<p>you can post under any moniker you like there.</p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/ebert-and-fonda-on-the-film-festival-protest-nee-boycott/#comment-1350292</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I like to keep my identity to myself. If somebody else would like to direct Ebert here or at least to these two links, it might enlighten him a bit:

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nowtoronto.com/movies/story.cfm?content=171064&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NowToronto&lt;/a&gt;:


&lt;blockquote&gt;“It’s important to note,’’ he says “that the [Tel Aviv Spotlight] was independantly [sic] conceived and curated. Entirely. We were looking for a place on the planet where there was new work happening. I was interested in bringing the culture of the city to Toronto to spark debate. There was no influence from any outside sources.’’
 
Does that include cash inducements, I ask? “The only financial element is the Israel Film Fund which funds filmakers travelling to festivals. And that’s all there is.’’
&lt;/blockquote&gt;




And from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tiff.net/livefromthefestival/news/openlettercitytocity&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cameron Bailey Open Letter on the TIFF website&lt;/a&gt;:




&lt;blockquote&gt;
As the programmer of City To City, I was attracted to Tel Aviv as our inaugural city because the films being made there explore and critique the city from many different perspectives. Furthermore, the City to City series was conceived and curated entirely independently. There was no pressure from any outside source. Contrary to rumours or mistaken media reports, this focus is a product only of TIFF&#039;s programming decisions. We value that independence and would never compromise it.

The goal of City to City is to take a closer look at global cities through a cinematic lens, especially cities where film contributes to or chronicles social change in compelling ways. We believe that the 10 films in our inaugural programme do just that. We encourage everyone to see the films, engage in debate and draw their own conclusions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is NO EVIDENCE whatsoever, and complete and entire denials by Cameron Bailey, that there was any form of collusion here between Israel and the Festival. There is far more evidence (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/is-toronto-film-festival-protest-organized-by-palestine-house/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/national-post-in-canada-picks-up-our-story-about-the-possible-connection-between-palestine-house-and-the-toronto-film-festival-protesters/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;two&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/palestine-house-and-an-activist-respond-to-national-post-article-based-on-jewlicious-com-research/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;three&lt;/a&gt;) that Palestine House is behind this campaign against the Festival and that at least one former adviser to the PLO is involved with this campaign against the Festival. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I like to keep my identity to myself. If somebody else would like to direct Ebert here or at least to these two links, it might enlighten him a bit:</p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.nowtoronto.com/movies/story.cfm?content=171064" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">NowToronto</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“It’s important to note,’’ he says “that the [Tel Aviv Spotlight] was independantly [sic] conceived and curated. Entirely. We were looking for a place on the planet where there was new work happening. I was interested in bringing the culture of the city to Toronto to spark debate. There was no influence from any outside sources.’’</p>
<p>Does that include cash inducements, I ask? “The only financial element is the Israel Film Fund which funds filmakers travelling to festivals. And that’s all there is.’’
</p></blockquote>
<p>And from the <a href="http://www.tiff.net/livefromthefestival/news/openlettercitytocity" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">Cameron Bailey Open Letter on the TIFF website</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>
As the programmer of City To City, I was attracted to Tel Aviv as our inaugural city because the films being made there explore and critique the city from many different perspectives. Furthermore, the City to City series was conceived and curated entirely independently. There was no pressure from any outside source. Contrary to rumours or mistaken media reports, this focus is a product only of TIFF&#8217;s programming decisions. We value that independence and would never compromise it.</p>
<p>The goal of City to City is to take a closer look at global cities through a cinematic lens, especially cities where film contributes to or chronicles social change in compelling ways. We believe that the 10 films in our inaugural programme do just that. We encourage everyone to see the films, engage in debate and draw their own conclusions.</p></blockquote>
<p>There is NO EVIDENCE whatsoever, and complete and entire denials by Cameron Bailey, that there was any form of collusion here between Israel and the Festival. There is far more evidence (see <a href="http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/is-toronto-film-festival-protest-organized-by-palestine-house/" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">one</a>, <a href="http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/national-post-in-canada-picks-up-our-story-about-the-possible-connection-between-palestine-house-and-the-toronto-film-festival-protesters/" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">two</a> and <a href="http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/palestine-house-and-an-activist-respond-to-national-post-article-based-on-jewlicious-com-research/" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">three</a>) that Palestine House is behind this campaign against the Festival and that at least one former adviser to the PLO is involved with this campaign against the Festival.</p>
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		<title>By: xisnotx</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/ebert-and-fonda-on-the-film-festival-protest-nee-boycott/#comment-1350290</link>
		<dc:creator>xisnotx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TM, have a look at the comments on Ebert&#039;s piece. He replies to some of the commenters, so you could try to make your case there &amp; see how he reacts. I think he added that paragraph after stuff people wrote in the comments. 

http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/09/tiff_8_the_destructive_grandst.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TM, have a look at the comments on Ebert&#8217;s piece. He replies to some of the commenters, so you could try to make your case there &amp; see how he reacts. I think he added that paragraph after stuff people wrote in the comments. </p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/09/tiff_8_the_destructive_grandst.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/09/tiff_8_the_destructive_grandst.html'>blogs.suntimes...</a></p>
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		<title>By: themiddle</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/ebert-and-fonda-on-the-film-festival-protest-nee-boycott/#comment-1350289</link>
		<dc:creator>themiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not see that, but he is wrong! The festival has openly and clearly denied ANY link or any compensation or any pressure from insiders or outsiders. They have explicitly stated that they came to choose Tel Aviv independently.

It was neither a &quot;goodwill gesture&quot; nor part of a &quot;deliberate plan to &#039;re-brand&#039; Israel.

I suspect that some of the &quot;protest&quot; organizers &quot;educated&quot; Mr. Ebert, and I&#039;ll bet he hadn&#039;t seen the clear denials by the Festival organizers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not see that, but he is wrong! The festival has openly and clearly denied ANY link or any compensation or any pressure from insiders or outsiders. They have explicitly stated that they came to choose Tel Aviv independently.</p>
<p>It was neither a &#8220;goodwill gesture&#8221; nor part of a &#8220;deliberate plan to &#8216;re-brand&#8217; Israel.</p>
<p>I suspect that some of the &#8220;protest&#8221; organizers &#8220;educated&#8221; Mr. Ebert, and I&#8217;ll bet he hadn&#8217;t seen the clear denials by the Festival organizers.</p>
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		<title>By: xisnotx</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/ebert-and-fonda-on-the-film-festival-protest-nee-boycott/#comment-1350283</link>
		<dc:creator>xisnotx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 06:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TM: did you see this -- Ebert added it today:

I&#039;m writing this the day after first posting this entry. I now regret it. The point I make about artists is perfectly valid but I realize I wasn&#039;t prepared with enough facts about the events leading up to the Festival&#039;s decision to showcase Tel Aviv in the City-to-City section. &lt;b&gt; I thought of it as an innocent goodwill gesture, but now realize it was part of a deliberate plan to &quot;re-brand&quot; Israel in Toronto, as a pilot for a larger such program. The Festival should never have agreed to be used like this.&lt;/b&gt; It was naive for the plan&#039;s supporters to believe it would have the effect they hoped for. The original entry remains below. The first 50 or so comments were posted before these regrets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TM: did you see this &#8212; Ebert added it today:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m writing this the day after first posting this entry. I now regret it. The point I make about artists is perfectly valid but I realize I wasn&#8217;t prepared with enough facts about the events leading up to the Festival&#8217;s decision to showcase Tel Aviv in the City-to-City section. <b> I thought of it as an innocent goodwill gesture, but now realize it was part of a deliberate plan to &#8220;re-brand&#8221; Israel in Toronto, as a pilot for a larger such program. The Festival should never have agreed to be used like this.</b> It was naive for the plan&#8217;s supporters to believe it would have the effect they hoped for. The original entry remains below. The first 50 or so comments were posted before these regrets.</p>
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		<title>By: Buberzionist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buberzionist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane Fonda didn&#039;t ask the anti-Tel-Aviv petition organizers to remove her name from the list of the petition signees. Her statement criticizing aspects of the petition is welcome but for me it&#039;s insufficient.

Fonda&#039;s explanation of why she signed it in the first place includes the claim that &quot;I signed the letter without reading it carefully enough.&quot; Someone online asked what sort of letter Jane Fonda thought she was signing. This person wondered if Jane Fonda reads her contracts with so little care.

Jane Fonda is in her 70s. Her acting career is basically over. If you visit her website you see that it&#039;s mostly having dinner parties with Rod Stewart, and so on.

So she wants to smooth over ruffled feathers without retracting the substance of what she signed. Retracting it would be asking the organizers of the petition to remove her name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane Fonda didn&#8217;t ask the anti-Tel-Aviv petition organizers to remove her name from the list of the petition signees. Her statement criticizing aspects of the petition is welcome but for me it&#8217;s insufficient.</p>
<p>Fonda&#8217;s explanation of why she signed it in the first place includes the claim that &#8220;I signed the letter without reading it carefully enough.&#8221; Someone online asked what sort of letter Jane Fonda thought she was signing. This person wondered if Jane Fonda reads her contracts with so little care.</p>
<p>Jane Fonda is in her 70s. Her acting career is basically over. If you visit her website you see that it&#8217;s mostly having dinner parties with Rod Stewart, and so on.</p>
<p>So she wants to smooth over ruffled feathers without retracting the substance of what she signed. Retracting it would be asking the organizers of the petition to remove her name.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Morrissey</title>
		<link>http://www.jewlicious.com/2009/09/ebert-and-fonda-on-the-film-festival-protest-nee-boycott/#comment-1350069</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Morrissey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....And Julie Christie lives in Wales.  Whew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.And Julie Christie lives in Wales.  Whew.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Morrissey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Morrissey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ebert&#039;s trying to saddle us with Naomi Klein, but she lives in Canada, thank you very much.</description>
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