Comments on: Pumping Iron for the Payes Set http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/ It's a Jewish Blog! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:17:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1540848 John Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:38:53 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1540848 Oh please Green Fitness Studio is not what they make it out to be. it has exactly 3 machines that are self powered, this is it. Everything else is like a regular gym, all machines have TV screens which are anything but eco friendly. they never turn off and run the entire day. There are about 5 jewish dudes exercising total, i don't know where the number 100 came from. Also their glass only roof design that is supposed to keep the place cool and prevent the sun heat from entering is a nice concept but it doesn't work. The workout area (which by the way is super small and have way too many benches and things for its size) is hot as hell and when you are bench pressing the sun goes right into your eyes. You are sweating literally 30 seconds after you start your workout and 10 minutes later you can barely catch your breath. Super unhealthy! The gym started nicely and the neighborhood was all excited about it but soon we all realized that those guys either have no idea how to run it or who knows... and the tattooed dude is no longer the GM either. Also there were around 20 employees that got changed within the span of 6- months which means that they either done pay them shit or again they are just incompetent. Oh please
Green Fitness Studio is not what they make it out to be. it has exactly 3 machines that are self powered, this is it. Everything else is like a regular gym, all machines have TV screens which are anything but eco friendly. they never turn off and run the entire day. There are about 5 jewish dudes exercising total, i don’t know where the number 100 came from. Also their glass only roof design that is supposed to keep the place cool and prevent the sun heat from entering is a nice concept but it doesn’t work. The workout area (which by the way is super small and have way too many benches and things for its size) is hot as hell and when you are bench pressing the sun goes right into your eyes. You are sweating literally 30 seconds after you start your workout and 10 minutes later you can barely catch your breath. Super unhealthy! The gym started nicely and the neighborhood was all excited about it but soon we all realized that those guys either have no idea how to run it or who knows… and the tattooed dude is no longer the GM either. Also there were around 20 employees that got changed within the span of 6- months which means that they either done pay them shit or again they are just incompetent.

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1511643 froylein Fri, 28 May 2010 17:56:39 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1511643 Haha, I love (my) Chasidim, but can't help nagging (all with the highest respect though). :) Git Shabos. Haha, I love (my) Chasidim, but can’t help nagging (all with the highest respect though). :)

Git Shabos.

]]> By: Chassidishe Velt http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1511641 Chassidishe Velt Fri, 28 May 2010 17:53:27 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1511641 First time since I went to this Website that I actually agree with Froylein. Moshiach is on his way!!! A Gerer Chasid pretends to be a Satmar Chassid who dont study daf yomi which was created in part by the 3rd Gerer Rebbe. What a chiddush. Good Shabbos. First time since I went to this Website that I actually agree with Froylein.

Moshiach is on his way!!!

A Gerer Chasid pretends to be a Satmar Chassid who dont study daf yomi which was created in part by the 3rd Gerer Rebbe.

What a chiddush. Good Shabbos.

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1509658 froylein Mon, 24 May 2010 13:03:33 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1509658 That's like an inside joke among them (just like also often giving out false names, but that's more out of privacy concerns); one that identified as a Satmar Chasid at Baruch's tisch was pretty obviouly a Gerer Chasid. Every Chasidus has got a distinct outfit. A commenter on VIN who apparently knows the portrayed man identifies him as a Pupa Chasid. Also, he's reading <a href="http://dafnotes.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">this site</a> on his screen, and Satmar Chasidim don't study Daf Yomi. That’s like an inside joke among them (just like also often giving out false names, but that’s more out of privacy concerns); one that identified as a Satmar Chasid at Baruch’s tisch was pretty obviouly a Gerer Chasid. Every Chasidus has got a distinct outfit.
A commenter on VIN who apparently knows the portrayed man identifies him as a Pupa Chasid. Also, he’s reading this site on his screen, and Satmar Chasidim don’t study Daf Yomi.

]]> By: Sharon http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1509643 Sharon Mon, 24 May 2010 12:00:31 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1509643 Yes they are, that's how they identified themselves to me, numerous times. Yes they are, that’s how they identified themselves to me, numerous times.

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1509574 froylein Mon, 24 May 2010 05:03:30 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1509574 They are not only Satmar Chasidim (please note, "Satmar" is the Chasidus, not the adherent). Even the guy in the picture isn't wearing a Satmar Chasidic outfit. They are not only Satmar Chasidim (please note, “Satmar” is the Chasidus, not the adherent). Even the guy in the picture isn’t wearing a Satmar Chasidic outfit.

]]> By: Sharon http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1509538 Sharon Mon, 24 May 2010 00:42:09 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1509538 Well, I'm glad this at least sparked a discussion, even if no one is in agreement. But, Mr. ck, in Williamsburg terms, I don't think this guy's just late on the bandwagon. Just walk around the neighborhood and you'll see an overwhelming number of Satmars who are still morbidly obese. Of course, not saying that they're the only ones in America, but trust me, a problem still exists. Maybe it's different in Israel, but in Brooklyn there is still a big problem. Well, I’m glad this at least sparked a discussion, even if no one is in agreement. But, Mr. ck, in Williamsburg terms, I don’t think this guy’s just late on the bandwagon. Just walk around the neighborhood and you’ll see an overwhelming number of Satmars who are still morbidly obese. Of course, not saying that they’re the only ones in America, but trust me, a problem still exists. Maybe it’s different in Israel, but in Brooklyn there is still a big problem.

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1509486 froylein Sun, 23 May 2010 19:34:22 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1509486 I know when you mock me, and in return I bore you ad nauseam if you haven't figured that out yet. I know when you mock me, and in return I bore you ad nauseam if you haven’t figured that out yet.

]]> By: ck http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1509485 ck Sun, 23 May 2010 19:27:58 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1509485 Geez Louise froylein, I was kidding! I got that pic from <a href="http://hipstersandhassids.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/hassidic-influence-on-fashion/" rel="nofollow">Hipsters and Hassids</a> and very little of what you wrote actually applies to anything I said. But yeah, thanks for the insight! Geez Louise froylein, I was kidding! I got that pic from Hipsters and Hassids and very little of what you wrote actually applies to anything I said. But yeah, thanks for the insight!

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1509482 froylein Sun, 23 May 2010 19:17:06 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1509482 Well, CK, I'm aware you know quite well that this is not a Chasid, but I also know that you're also aware that the history of Willi doesn't begin with what I've seen called "the hipster invasion". Baruch, who's quoted in the article, gets to deal with Chasidim on the fringe, not those that are ok with being what and who they are. On my recent trip to NYC, Kelsey and I went to Baruch's "tisch", and what I saw there is what my Chasidic friends share as an experience; they were treated by the "hipsters" like comic figures, not respectfully. One woman was continuously interrupting one Chasid who was trying to engage her in a civil conversation about their different worldviews. Instead of making substantial points, she just got louder and louder and sought support from others till somebody turned to me and asked, "What do you think?" I told her to let him talk as that was polite and respectful. I wonder whether any of those attending hipsters even shoulders 10% of the responsibilities most Chasidic people shoulder within their communities and families and if they ever will. Feeding a family of eight in your early thirties is nothing you're likely to accomplish on amateurish collages and substance use to employ two more prejudices, but this time aimed at the other group. Chasidim on average are quick thinkers; once they're comfortable talking to you, they keep you on your toes in a conversation, and dialectically, many of them are far superior to many well-educated secular people. They've often got a language barrier to get over because English is not their mother tongue and most of the boys never really get to learn that language properly, but they are fast learners and they pick up things fast provided you don't patronise them. Oh, and I've never claimed there aren't any overweight Chasidim anymore; all I said was that a) there have been Chasidim working out for quite a few years already, b) that those Chasidim are not singular phenomena, and c) that there was a non-Jewish and secular community in Willi before people sought to live among Chasidim there cause they thought it was the cool and progressive thing to do and the Willi Chasidim were in contact with those non- and secular Jews already then. But if you must know, there's indeed a vast chunk of Chasidim obsessed with being skinny, to unhealthy effects even, and there's a slowly rising awareness of the importance of eating healthily. Then again, skinny and healthy are two different things altogether. As for that joke on VIN, it's a great example of Jewish humour in the light of feeling humiliated: resorting to self-deprecating humour. I've got enough insight into that community, not just people on the fringe, to know they feel hurt being portrayed as oddities. Well, CK, I’m aware you know quite well that this is not a Chasid, but I also know that you’re also aware that the history of Willi doesn’t begin with what I’ve seen called “the hipster invasion”. Baruch, who’s quoted in the article, gets to deal with Chasidim on the fringe, not those that are ok with being what and who they are. On my recent trip to NYC, Kelsey and I went to Baruch’s “tisch”, and what I saw there is what my Chasidic friends share as an experience; they were treated by the “hipsters” like comic figures, not respectfully. One woman was continuously interrupting one Chasid who was trying to engage her in a civil conversation about their different worldviews. Instead of making substantial points, she just got louder and louder and sought support from others till somebody turned to me and asked, “What do you think?” I told her to let him talk as that was polite and respectful. I wonder whether any of those attending hipsters even shoulders 10% of the responsibilities most Chasidic people shoulder within their communities and families and if they ever will. Feeding a family of eight in your early thirties is nothing you’re likely to accomplish on amateurish collages and substance use to employ two more prejudices, but this time aimed at the other group.

Chasidim on average are quick thinkers; once they’re comfortable talking to you, they keep you on your toes in a conversation, and dialectically, many of them are far superior to many well-educated secular people. They’ve often got a language barrier to get over because English is not their mother tongue and most of the boys never really get to learn that language properly, but they are fast learners and they pick up things fast provided you don’t patronise them.

Oh, and I’ve never claimed there aren’t any overweight Chasidim anymore; all I said was that a) there have been Chasidim working out for quite a few years already, b) that those Chasidim are not singular phenomena, and c) that there was a non-Jewish and secular community in Willi before people sought to live among Chasidim there cause they thought it was the cool and progressive thing to do and the Willi Chasidim were in contact with those non- and secular Jews already then. But if you must know, there’s indeed a vast chunk of Chasidim obsessed with being skinny, to unhealthy effects even, and there’s a slowly rising awareness of the importance of eating healthily. Then again, skinny and healthy are two different things altogether.

As for that joke on VIN, it’s a great example of Jewish humour in the light of feeling humiliated: resorting to self-deprecating humour. I’ve got enough insight into that community, not just people on the fringe, to know they feel hurt being portrayed as oddities.

]]> By: ck http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1509464 ck Sun, 23 May 2010 17:06:04 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1509464 Yeah, I have to agree with froylein. Judging by all the ripped Hassidim I have seen lately, this isn't a novelty or a new development. I mean check the six pack on this dude out: <img src="http://www.coolhunting.com/2010/04/07/uncommon-creatures5.jpg"/> I mean seriously, Google "Fat Hassidim" - there are hardly any recent photos available anymore! Hassids are now trim and fit and no longer eat really bad food or smoke. The guy Sharon featured was probably late getting on the bandwagon and the other Hassids that joined the gym probably switched their memberships from the other gym they were already attending. Walk into any gym near any Haredi enclave and it's a veritable sea of black and white! Mamish gevalt! Yeah, I have to agree with froylein. Judging by all the ripped Hassidim I have seen lately, this isn’t a novelty or a new development. I mean check the six pack on this dude out:

I mean seriously, Google “Fat Hassidim” – there are hardly any recent photos available anymore! Hassids are now trim and fit and no longer eat really bad food or smoke. The guy Sharon featured was probably late getting on the bandwagon and the other Hassids that joined the gym probably switched their memberships from the other gym they were already attending. Walk into any gym near any Haredi enclave and it’s a veritable sea of black and white! Mamish gevalt!

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1509459 froylein Sun, 23 May 2010 16:29:39 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1509459 They didn't use closed-off / segregated facilities before either. There were also non- and secular Jews in Willi before the hipster attraction to that area. They didn’t use closed-off / segregated facilities before either. There were also non- and secular Jews in Willi before the hipster attraction to that area.

]]> By: Sharon http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1509457 Sharon Sun, 23 May 2010 16:15:45 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1509457 That's not the point of the story. The point is that they're working out with everybody else in the neighborhood, mixing with the hipsters. THAT'S what's new. That’s not the point of the story. The point is that they’re working out with everybody else in the neighborhood, mixing with the hipsters. THAT’S what’s new.

]]> By: froylein http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1509449 froylein Sun, 23 May 2010 15:30:42 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1509449 Hardly novelty; I befriended Willi Chasidim eleven years ago already that already had been working out for years - and so had their friends. I'd be much more amazed to see mainstream Jewish media treating Chasidim for what they are, individual human beings, not alien curiosities. Hardly novelty; I befriended Willi Chasidim eleven years ago already that already had been working out for years – and so had their friends.
I’d be much more amazed to see mainstream Jewish media treating Chasidim for what they are, individual human beings, not alien curiosities.

]]> By: Sharon Udasin » Blog Archive » Pumping Iron For The Payes Set http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/05/pumping-iron-for-the-payes-set/#comment-1509441 Sharon Udasin » Blog Archive » Pumping Iron For The Payes Set Sun, 23 May 2010 14:37:46 +0000 http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=14889#comment-1509441 [...] See additional commentary on this piece on Vos Iz Neais, on FailedMessiah and now on Jewlicious. [...] [...] See additional commentary on this piece on Vos Iz Neais, on FailedMessiah and now on Jewlicious. [...]

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