Extraordinary Interview with Jewlicious Founder David Abitbol and Former Westboro Church Members

Megan and Grace Phelps-Roper are two extraordinary young women. I don’t use those words lightly. The two young women, who have recently left their notorious Westboro Baptist Church, are unusual in their grace, kindness and bravery. Leaving their church has meant exile from their family and the imposition of a new beginning in their lives without the safety net enjoyed by most of us of family, home and the physical and monetary security they offer.

I had a chance to briefly meet these two young women, 25 and 18 respectively, and also watched them speak publicly at the recent Jewlicious Festival. The panel discussion they gave on Shabbat, led by David Abitbol whose communication with them over the years had served as a catalyst for their departure from Westboro, was one of the most interesting and touching presentations I’ve ever seen. I believe virtually everyone in the room was touched by their sincerity and the challenges they face both in coming to terms with their decision to leave the Church and in determining their future. It isn’t easy to be in their situation right now and I certainly hope the two of them know that they can rely on the people they have met from and through Jewlicious to assist them when challenges and challenging times arise, as they inevitably will. I say this about Grace in particular because she is younger than Megan and leaving everything behind at 18 is not a cliche, it’s genuinely difficult.

In any case, I have no idea how to embed this interview that was conducted by the CBC’s Jian Ghomeshi with David Abitbol, Megan and Grace, but it captures some of the spirit of the panel discussion at Jewlicious and it, what can I say, it restores one’s faith in humanity. You can find it here and I strongly encourage you, dear reader, to take a few minutes to listen.


Here it is in another location where they did know how to embed the interview: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/borntoreform/2013/03/interview-why-megan-and-grace-phelps-left-westboro-baptist-church/ – the 1st link no longer works but this one does.


  1. ck

    3/20/2013 at 4:56 pm

    See? See TM?? See the crazy shit I have to do to get you to post???


  2. themiddle

    3/20/2013 at 6:06 pm

    Dude, we’re all just clowns in one really, really big dog and pony show.

  3. Bill Frankel

    4/9/2013 at 4:01 pm

    amazing. is there vid of the panel?

    • themiddle

      4/9/2013 at 9:09 pm

      It was Shabbat and while Jewlicious Festival has both secular and traditional participants, for the programming Shabbat is traditional so nobody recorded it. It’s actually a shame because it was very special but I think this audio interview captures some of the spirit of that panel.

  4. Bill Frankel

    4/10/2013 at 4:25 am

    see? see ck?? see the crazy shit you have to do to get me to post???

    • ck

      4/15/2013 at 10:05 am

      Heh. That was funny Bill. There was no video because the panel took place on Shabbat but I am pretty sure this is not the last you will hear from these women.

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  7. Greg Carter

    7/4/2013 at 6:41 pm

    This story is God’s Grace in action

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