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Jimmy Carter spreading manure

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It’s not enough that Jimmy published his manifesto replete with historical errors and plagiarized maps, but he is also on a crusade to spread his manure across college campuses. Today, he brings his road show to UC Irvine, a hotbed of anti-Israel, Jew-hating Moslems; a campus notorious for refusing to condemn Jew-baiting; a campus where Jews are intimidated and the US Commission on Civil Rights has found a pattern of discrimination and racism against Jewish students and supporters of Israel. No questions will be allowed- only pre-screened questions submitted on-line before today.

Will Jimmy speak about that? No. Jimmy will speak about how the bad are the Israelis and how wonderful are the Palestinians, and how Jews have too much influence in America, and that Israel and her supporters control American foreign policy, and that he is a peace-maker and a home-builder and peanut farmer, and he can be trusted to deliver the truth.

And it is unlikely that he will make any mention of the millions of dollars that have poured into his center from Arab Oil Sheiks and their totalitarian regimes, and other such sundry details from the life of a career politician.

The are billing this manure-fest as Carter Speaks on Peace- at 10:30am, UCI Bren Events Center.

24 Comments

  1. EV

    5/3/2007 at 11:07 am

    Why is Zbigniew in that picture?

  2. Balaam's Donkey

    5/3/2007 at 8:56 pm

    Rabbi,

    Have you ever met any Palestinians? Spent time in their homes or with their families?

    Just wondering.

  3. ck

    5/3/2007 at 9:08 pm

    oh BD… you have no idea.

  4. Balaam's Donkey

    5/3/2007 at 9:21 pm

    I don’t. That’s why I ask.

  5. themiddle

    5/3/2007 at 10:00 pm

    Balaam, I’m curious as to what that has to do with Carter. If the Rabbi had spent time with Palestinians he would be less angry about the book?

  6. mike lundbom

    5/4/2007 at 5:53 am

    Come on Rabbi Yonah, tell the truth. You’re not a Rabbi are you?

  7. Balaam's Donkey

    5/4/2007 at 8:58 am

    middle,

    That’s not what I’m suggesting. I just see a tendency on behalf of many Jews and many Jewish leaders to refer to “The Arabs” “Muslims”, and “The Palestinians” as these monolithic groups deciding who they are, how the feel and what they represent without ever having any kind of meaningful human encounters with people representing those identities, and I think that this tends to affect a lot of the rhetoric.

    I mean, look, I hear it every time my relatives talk about “The Arabs”. Which Arabs are they referring to? My relatives don’t know any Arabs!

    There’s no question that there is a significant amout of Anti-Israel and Anti-Zionism sentiment and activism on that campus, and I’m not here to debate the rightness or wrongness of that, but to then refer to that campus as a “hotbed of Anti-Israel Jew-hating Moslems”? Well, it kinda takes every single member of a religious group on that campus and puts them into a very specific box, and it sounds more than a little prejudiced itself.

    And I find that anytime someone makes the accusation that someone believes that “the Israelis are bad and the Palestinians are good”, that it is often the case the accuser simply believes the reverse.

  8. EV

    5/4/2007 at 11:15 am

    Again: Why is Zbigniew in that picture?

  9. Jewish Mother

    5/4/2007 at 12:13 pm

    My father met some nice Germans in World War II, too. He really did. They drank cognac and were cultured people. In the evening. In the daytime, they did, … other things. He tried to talk with them, over a glass of cognac, but it did not work out, because there was a difference of basic vocabulary that could not be bridged.

    My father won that war. He did not do it by being a nice person to the Germans. (The cognac drinking was done after he had won. The people concerned had already been disarmed.)

    I am so glad my father is not alive to see this war. His hard work is undone, and has to be done all over again.

    Wars are not fought on a personal level, BD.

    Let me remark that war is awful but that losing is even worse. You are under attack, sweetheart.

  10. Balaam's Donkey

    5/4/2007 at 2:16 pm

    Wow.

    what a remarkably uneven analogy. First, to compare palestinian civilians to german military during wwII, that just makes no sense. Second, I’ve repeatedly encountered plenty of people who you apparently think are apparently attacking me. We don’t drink cognac, they’re not my prisoners, and yet somehow I manage to look at them as friends. Amazing the things I can do when I don’t feel the need to apply a stereotype or a prejudice to an entire group of people.

    Guess I must be a self-hating Jew, huh? That’s probably the only explanation.

  11. DK

    5/4/2007 at 2:41 pm

    WILL SOME KIND PERSON PLEASE ANSWER EV’S QUESTION!

  12. themiddle

    5/4/2007 at 3:09 pm

    The only person who can answer it is the person who posted it. The person who posted it may not be around at the moment.

  13. Rabbi Yonah

    5/4/2007 at 7:39 pm

    BD – I have spent time with Palestinians. The “hotbed of Anti-Israel Jew-hating Muslim’s” at UC Irvine are for the most part NOT Palestinian and rally around this issue in order to defeat and destroy support for Israel in the US.

    This month the campus Muslim group hosts ” Holocaust Memorial Week” equating the situation of Palestinians and that of the Jews during WWII.

    I have been intimidated, harassed, and blood-libeled at UCI by Muslim students and their invited guests.

    The book, Carter, and the Muslims at UCI are united in their vision to undermine all support for Israel in the US. The Muslim students hope that that will weaken Israel and eventually lead to her demise.

    And I repeat: UCI is a hotbed of Anti-Israel Jew-hating Muslims. Most students at UCI could care less – they are not interested.

    It is a training ground for the most radical anti-Western students in the USA.

  14. Rabbi Yonah

    5/4/2007 at 7:41 pm

    I didnt make the picture. I just thought it was useful as a graphic aid.

  15. nolie

    5/4/2007 at 10:02 pm

    “Palestinians?” Where did they come from and where was their country established? Do you mean the Arabs from Syria, Jordan and Lebanon who suddenly became “Palestinians” after 1967? Bigfoot is more real and which I’ve actually seen.

  16. themiddle

    5/4/2007 at 11:21 pm

    🙄

  17. DK

    5/5/2007 at 12:32 am

    Rabbi Yonah,

    Not okay. EV’s question stands. You appear to be implicating an innocent man.

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  19. themiddle

    5/5/2007 at 3:00 am

    Sheesh, you guys forced me to research Zbigniew a little. He asserts himself as fairly middle of the road with respect to Israel, but he did strongly defend Walt & Mearsheimer’s paper about the “Israel Lobby,” (really not okay) has attacked settlements (perfectly valid) and has spoken out against aid to Israel (also valid, if unfriendly). Other than that, I can’t find a reason that he should be among those photos since they decorate a post about anti-Israel rhetoric. If Zbigniew has treaded that line, it doesn’t seem to me to have been malicious or driven by an agenda the way Carter is.

    The photo asserts that he and Carter are still supporting Iranians, alluding to the weak and failed policy regarding Iran during the Carter Administration. This is justified criticism. However, the little propaganda ad seems to relate to recent outspokenness on the parts of both men to speak out against taking active steps against Iran. Specifically, Zbigniew has spoken publicly and to Congress about his belief that the Administration is looking for an excuse to attack Iran and that this would be a grave mistake. I suspect whoever made this ad may have reason to wish to discredit those who suggest approaching Iran with an appeasing approach.

    The photo doesn’t seem to fit the post.

  20. Maria Noland

    5/5/2007 at 8:02 am

    What I don’t understand about the “Jew-hating Muslims” remark is what purpose Rabbi Yonah sees in specifying that said students are Muslims. We all know there are Jew-hating Jews and Christians and that being anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist have nothing to do with one’s religious beliefs.

    By highlighting that such sentiments are found primarily among the Muslim community further alienates said anti-Semites/Zionists and motivates them to continue such nonsense, mainly as a matter of identity. So many of the Muslims that I meet here on my campus are part of the “Free Palestine” movement because they feel that sticking up for the homeland is an integral part of being Muslim.

    What I don’t understand is why support for Israel and the two-state solution is a matter of one’s religion. People who yearn for Israel’s demise and, consequently, a precarious future for the Jewish people (or any other law-abiding, moral people or democratic nation) are first and foremost adherents to a dangerous, irrational, and terroristic way of thinking, whether they are Jewish, Muslim, Christian, or something else. It becomes a question of religion only when we wrongly make it one.

    I yearn for the day when both Jews and Muslims can come together for Zionist rallies, Yom HaShoah, and share in each other’s rich culture, language, and history. Only then will Hizbollah and Hamas be universally shunned and peace will prevail.

  21. EV

    5/5/2007 at 12:12 pm

    Thanks, Middle. I wouldn’t dispute that Zbigniew is critical of Israel, but to group him with the rest of the people in that picture is the exact kind of reflexive apoplexy that characterizes too much of supposedly “pro Israel” discourse.

  22. Jewish Mother

    5/7/2007 at 3:59 pm

    BD, my father talked to civilians. Their country had lost. But they were not exactly my father’s prisoners. They were ordinary folks.

    I should have made that clearer.

    The analogy is not bad at all. The population at large supported the Germans and your friends support their side too.

    They are nice to you because it is interesting and useful and you are probably a nice person to hang around with.

    That does not change one little thing. That is my point.

    Really nice people on the other side may be really nice but they are firmly, no kidding, on the other side. They will not hide you. And they will not tell you the truth about whether or not they would hide you. Exactly because you have not won yet.

    I should have been clearer. Thanks for your response.

  23. Jewish Mother

    5/7/2007 at 4:04 pm

    I am extremely sad about this, but there are some divisions between people that cannot be talked away, alas. You are saying: that is not so. But, I am saying it is so. I wish, so earnestly, you were right. I just do not think you are.

    There are very real, sixty-year old and more, ties between the world that produced your friends, and the world my father had to fight against. Somebody provide the links. I do not have the strength. Middle, you could.

    It is the same story, continued. It goes back to WWI and it goes back long before that.

    You are an idealist but you also have to stay alive and carry the Torah forward and marry a Jewish lady and have babies. Maybe you have already.

    We are on the same side. I am just worried and you are not worried.

    Tiime will tell.

  24. Lola

    1/27/2008 at 8:53 pm

    I think you have very restricted vision of terrorism. Open it, it would be more compatible to the justice ideal.

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